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wait ... what?! After the work-for-yourself jingoism?!?!

by trustfundbaby 15y ago

forensic 15y ago
What else is new. Bloggers get rich by getting your attention, not by helping you.
- sliverstorm 15y ago
  To extend upon that, bloggers get rich by getting your attention, which does not actually require they practice, subscribe to or even believe what they are telling you.
  - Confusion 15y ago
    However, this is not a blogger. Also: Schopenhauer[1]. [1] Famously did not abide by his own philosophy, which does not make it a single bit less insightful or valuable.
    - toadi 15y ago
      Was ready to make the same comment. Especially most philosophers working on ethical issues didn't follow their own propositions.
alnayyir 15y ago
Hypocrisy is the norm with much of what passes through here. At least GS employees don't have any pretensions to holiness. I'd much rather work with people who are honest with themselves about their motivations than who try to push the suffering under the surface with bullshit rationalizations like that in the post.
- alnayyir 15y ago
  Downvoters who may not know better: it's generally expected that if you downvote someone, you will accompany that with an explanation of why you downvoted. We're here to communicate, not bicker over popularity contests.
  - forgotmypasswd 15y ago
    What is the karma threshold to get down voting ability?
- Apocryphon 15y ago
  It isn't hypocritical. Facebook is a giant startup, after all. Perhaps much of the loose, casual culture still remains there, and you don't have to worry about the corporate shell games and hierarchy that financial firms like GS would have in scads.
- dodo53 15y ago
  Heh - well, some of them have pretensions to holiness http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1226114/Goldman-Sachs-chief-says-Gods-work-defends-banks-bumper-profits.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1226114/Goldman-Sach... (I do know people there who are very nice also)
wisty 15y ago
Well, he hated working for a company where engineers were second-class citizens, and all the staff were treated as fighting cocks. I'd imagine that at Facebook, engineers are treated as first class citizens. I dislike Facebook as a product, and I'm not sure I trust Zuckerberg, but I really respect the company. Roughly 200 engineers running a tech product that millions of grandmas use is no mean feat. I bet they don't treat their engineers as mere cogs in a machine.
- yid 15y ago
  FYI, it's been a while since FB was 200 engineers. The average size of the summer intern class itself is about 200.

wait ... what?! After the work-for-yourself jingoism?!?!

forensic 15y ago

What else is new. Bloggers get rich by getting your attention, not by helping you.

sliverstorm 15y ago
To extend upon that, bloggers get rich by getting your attention, which does not actually require they practice, subscribe to or even believe what they are telling you.
- Confusion 15y ago
  However, this is not a blogger. Also: Schopenhauer[1]. [1] Famously did not abide by his own philosophy, which does not make it a single bit less insightful or valuable.
  - toadi 15y ago
    Was ready to make the same comment. Especially most philosophers working on ethical issues didn't follow their own propositions.

alnayyir 15y ago

Hypocrisy is the norm with much of what passes through here. At least GS employees don't have any pretensions to holiness. I'd much rather work with people who are honest with themselves about their motivations than who try to push the suffering under the surface with bullshit rationalizations like that in the post.

alnayyir 15y ago
Downvoters who may not know better: it's generally expected that if you downvote someone, you will accompany that with an explanation of why you downvoted. We're here to communicate, not bicker over popularity contests.
- forgotmypasswd 15y ago
  What is the karma threshold to get down voting ability?
Apocryphon 15y ago
It isn't hypocritical. Facebook is a giant startup, after all. Perhaps much of the loose, casual culture still remains there, and you don't have to worry about the corporate shell games and hierarchy that financial firms like GS would have in scads.
dodo53 15y ago
Heh - well, some of them have pretensions to holiness http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1226114/Goldman-Sachs-chief-says-Gods-work-defends-banks-bumper-profits.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1226114/Goldman-Sach... (I do know people there who are very nice also)

wisty 15y ago

Well, he hated working for a company where engineers were second-class citizens, and all the staff were treated as fighting cocks. I'd imagine that at Facebook, engineers are treated as first class citizens. I dislike Facebook as a product, and I'm not sure I trust Zuckerberg, but I really respect the company. Roughly 200 engineers running a tech product that millions of grandmas use is no mean feat. I bet they don't treat their engineers as mere cogs in a machine.

yid 15y ago
FYI, it's been a while since FB was 200 engineers. The average size of the summer intern class itself is about 200.