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This is laughable. Chinese citizens are required to approve of their government, lest they run afoul of the national social credit system. That the study was co

This is laughable. Chinese citizens are required to approve of their government, lest they run afoul of the national social credit system. That the study was conducted by a Western organization is irrelevant. Chinese citizens know that their communications with the West are not private, and perhaps even especially subject to monitoring and intrusion from their government. Edit: I usually don't call out blatant CCP astroturfing on this site. But I want to draw everyone's attention to the video that u/xtian just shared in the comment below. It's clearly Chinese Communist Party propaganda. It's tagged #serpentza and #laowhy86 because those are the two most famous Western streamers who have lived in China for decades. The CCP specifically targets people who watch their videos for counter programming. I'm done interacting with this "person", but will respond to comments from others. Check out serpentza's youtube for the truth about China: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl7mAGnY4jh4Ps8rhhh8XZg https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl7mAGnY4jh4Ps8rhhh8XZg

xtian 6y ago
Yeah true the only way to know their real interests is to listen to the West. That's why when native Chinese people say the social credit system doesn't exist I call them liars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaPvnGhbj9A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaPvnGhbj9A Edit: chitowneats, if you don't believe I'm a real person message me on Keybase. We can discuss whatever you'd like. Or just keep believing it's impossible for any real person to have political views that fall outside the boundaries set by NATO propaganda.
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- chitowneats 6y ago
  Anyone here with any technical literacy knows that the fact that you have a keybase account, and associated pseudonym, does not prove anything. Edit: Response to the comment below. Being rate limited. The West is past the point of naively believing that the CCP does not have multi-decade information ops being conducted against their governments and citizenry. Also, that was exactly your assertion. What would be the point of bringing up your irrelevant keybase account if it was not an attempt to mislead me and others on this site?
  - xtian 6y ago
    That wasn't my assertion, but I could tell you my life story, send you a picture of my neighborhood, etc. I want you to believe, brother. You think the CPC made a HN account to post about jQuery 10 years ago just so they could eventually correct your lukewarm takes on Taiwan? Response to your edit: Is the CPC in the room with you now, chitowneats?
    - chitowneats 6y ago
      我们见到你
- amaccuish 5y ago
  Thank you for your insightful comments and sorry for the hate you receiving by not towing the NATO line!
f6v 6y ago
> This is laughable. Chinese citizens are required to approve of their government, lest they run afoul of the national social credit system. It’s your word against someone else’s. I only know about China from personal anecdotes. And you know what, whenever I ask my Chinese colleague if these things are true she tells me it’s bs. So what do I believe? And when you resort dehumanizing your opponent is when you start loosing the argument. When you say that guy is on CCP payroll, you basically claim it’s impossible for a person to have an opinion that differs from yours. Which is ironic since you’re bashing China for being an evil dictatorship.

xtian 6y ago

Yeah true the only way to know their real interests is to listen to the West. That's why when native Chinese people say the social credit system doesn't exist I call them liars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaPvnGhbj9A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaPvnGhbj9A Edit: chitowneats, if you don't believe I'm a real person message me on Keybase. We can discuss whatever you'd like. Or just keep believing it's impossible for any real person to have political views that fall outside the boundaries set by NATO propaganda.

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chitowneats 6y ago
Anyone here with any technical literacy knows that the fact that you have a keybase account, and associated pseudonym, does not prove anything. Edit: Response to the comment below. Being rate limited. The West is past the point of naively believing that the CCP does not have multi-decade information ops being conducted against their governments and citizenry. Also, that was exactly your assertion. What would be the point of bringing up your irrelevant keybase account if it was not an attempt to mislead me and others on this site?
- xtian 6y ago
  That wasn't my assertion, but I could tell you my life story, send you a picture of my neighborhood, etc. I want you to believe, brother. You think the CPC made a HN account to post about jQuery 10 years ago just so they could eventually correct your lukewarm takes on Taiwan? Response to your edit: Is the CPC in the room with you now, chitowneats?
  - chitowneats 6y ago
    我们见到你
amaccuish 5y ago
Thank you for your insightful comments and sorry for the hate you receiving by not towing the NATO line!

f6v 6y ago

> This is laughable. Chinese citizens are required to approve of their government, lest they run afoul of the national social credit system. It’s your word against someone else’s. I only know about China from personal anecdotes. And you know what, whenever I ask my Chinese colleague if these things are true she tells me it’s bs. So what do I believe? And when you resort dehumanizing your opponent is when you start loosing the argument. When you say that guy is on CCP payroll, you basically claim it’s impossible for a person to have an opinion that differs from yours. Which is ironic since you’re bashing China for being an evil dictatorship.