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Isn’t that only 20 people? Edit: as in, this is misleadingly phrased as if it’s a large collective action

minimaxir 5y ago
Still a third, which has organizational consequences. More importantly, this 20 people includes senior employees which cannot easily be replaced. > The entire iOS team is out, Head of Design and one of the oldest hires is out of the team and the Rails Core Team as well. https://twitter.com/agisilaosts/status/1388213430004375555 https://twitter.com/agisilaosts/status/1388213430004375555
williamsmj 5y ago
"About one-third of stools legs removed." "Isn't that only one leg?"
- pschuegr 5y ago
  "Single leg removed from every stool! How will we replace them all?" "But we only have one stool?"
whymauri 5y ago
*Three* org heads, two lead developers, and seven developers (apparently the entire iOS team) in that group, at least. That's a recruitment/headcount nightmare... I wouldn't be surprised if other employees leave based on crunch and headcount alone.
- bob33212 5y ago
  I left a job because management decided to take on a customer that was going to be a disaster to work with. This could be happening here. If you were the lone iOS dev you would be on call 24/7 until they hired more people. Why not take a paid vacation
- joelbluminator 5y ago
  Well the ios team is 2 engineers I think, Basecamp is very lean on mobile...its mostly html.
pwthornton 5y ago
It is large collective action per the size of the company. A small company may actually weather this worse than a large company. Basecamp has run lean for years. Some of those big tech companies like Microsoft often weather huge layoffs with no real ill effects. But they often get really bloated when the economy is rocking and then lean out every now and then. But this is monstrous. I've never seen this many people leave at once. There is no way this is good for Basecamp.
loopercal 5y ago
You remind me of the database guy who, when I told him we'd lost a replica in prod and asked when it would be back online, said, "It's not a high priority for us, there's still another replica."
confidantlake 5y ago
20 people leave Microsoft, sure not a big deal. 20 people leave a company with 60 people? That is huge.

Still a third, which has organizational consequences. More importantly, this 20 people includes senior employees which cannot easily be replaced. > The entire iOS team is out, Head of Design and one of the oldest hires is out of the team and the Rails Core Team as well. https://twitter.com/agisilaosts/status/1388213430004375555 https://twitter.com/agisilaosts/status/1388213430004375555

williamsmj 5y ago

"About one-third of stools legs removed." "Isn't that only one leg?"

pschuegr 5y ago
"Single leg removed from every stool! How will we replace them all?" "But we only have one stool?"

whymauri 5y ago

*Three* org heads, two lead developers, and seven developers (apparently the entire iOS team) in that group, at least. That's a recruitment/headcount nightmare... I wouldn't be surprised if other employees leave based on crunch and headcount alone.

bob33212 5y ago
I left a job because management decided to take on a customer that was going to be a disaster to work with. This could be happening here. If you were the lone iOS dev you would be on call 24/7 until they hired more people. Why not take a paid vacation
joelbluminator 5y ago
Well the ios team is 2 engineers I think, Basecamp is very lean on mobile...its mostly html.

pwthornton 5y ago

It is large collective action per the size of the company. A small company may actually weather this worse than a large company. Basecamp has run lean for years. Some of those big tech companies like Microsoft often weather huge layoffs with no real ill effects. But they often get really bloated when the economy is rocking and then lean out every now and then. But this is monstrous. I've never seen this many people leave at once. There is no way this is good for Basecamp.

loopercal 5y ago

You remind me of the database guy who, when I told him we'd lost a replica in prod and asked when it would be back online, said, "It's not a high priority for us, there's still another replica."

confidantlake 5y ago

20 people leave Microsoft, sure not a big deal. 20 people leave a company with 60 people? That is huge.