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There’s another aspect: there’s a horrible lack of common decency and respect by supervisors and managers of low-wage workers. Having worked menial data entry,

There’s another aspect: there’s a horrible lack of common decency and respect by supervisors and managers of low-wage workers. Having worked menial data entry, warehouse, grocery store, fast food jobs, I’ve interacted with far too many stressed-out and abusive/abused bosses who cannot cope with the razor-thin timelines with minimal workforce (which seems to be the norm) and ultimately exhaust this irritating heat onto their subordinates and fail to show a minimal amount of respect to their employees to the degree of hostility and abuse. This isn’t so much of an “all bosses suck” trope (I am happy and lucky to be at a healthier work environment at the moment). The sense I have is demands from the top continue to be more and more unrealistic as decisions are made to cut costs without truly thinking about it may start to rot the foundation beneath. In my case, $18 sounds like a lot of money, but I wonder if this just means the work will be exponentially more stressful and unhealthy.

barry-cotter 5y ago
> there’s a horrible lack of common decency and respect by supervisors and managers of low-wage workers. Yeah, if the entire culture creating class/media/academia is agreed that people who don’t have college degrees are worthless failures or at best need other people to make their decisions for them there’s not going to be much respect going round. The Anglo West is not Japan.
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- pizzazzaro 5y ago
  Speak for yourself. Too many of our fast food workers have advanced degrees, but nowhere will take us. I cant tell if that one barista with a Mechanical Engineering degree unknowingly got hers from a diploma mill, or if the 2008-crunch just left her permanently out of the industry. Ive met trained, degree-holding coders, engineers, graphic designers, paralegals, mathematicians, even teachers that could simply not break into their chosen field, but had to simply subsist on fast food wages. Hell, there was one man who ran film crews at major Hollywood studios! But when his mother got sick, he took time off. And he simply couldnt get back in. So here we are, being asked to subsidize our ability to show up to work... where the customers are demeaning enough to become a meme named "Karen."
BeFlatXIII 5y ago
There is the additional factor that, at least in fast food, a salaried manager often makes a lower hourly rate than if they were paid at minimum wage plus overtime. It’s an industry filled with horrible bosses because the good bosses either leave or ran the math and declined the promotion in the first place.

barry-cotter 5y ago

> there’s a horrible lack of common decency and respect by supervisors and managers of low-wage workers. Yeah, if the entire culture creating class/media/academia is agreed that people who don’t have college degrees are worthless failures or at best need other people to make their decisions for them there’s not going to be much respect going round. The Anglo West is not Japan.

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pizzazzaro 5y ago
Speak for yourself. Too many of our fast food workers have advanced degrees, but nowhere will take us. I cant tell if that one barista with a Mechanical Engineering degree unknowingly got hers from a diploma mill, or if the 2008-crunch just left her permanently out of the industry. Ive met trained, degree-holding coders, engineers, graphic designers, paralegals, mathematicians, even teachers that could simply not break into their chosen field, but had to simply subsist on fast food wages. Hell, there was one man who ran film crews at major Hollywood studios! But when his mother got sick, he took time off. And he simply couldnt get back in. So here we are, being asked to subsidize our ability to show up to work... where the customers are demeaning enough to become a meme named "Karen."

BeFlatXIII 5y ago

There is the additional factor that, at least in fast food, a salaried manager often makes a lower hourly rate than if they were paid at minimum wage plus overtime. It’s an industry filled with horrible bosses because the good bosses either leave or ran the math and declined the promotion in the first place.