Right, but we're not talking about Sam Walton debating you about unions, we're talking about an everyday person who might end up joining one. You either missed

Right, but we're not talking about Sam Walton debating you about unions, we're talking about an everyday person who might end up joining one. You either missed the part where OP is talking about behavior in comments on this site or you're willfully ignoring it to make a point about Sam Walton and power. Unless you think it's okay to take the full history of unions and people's suffering on your back and wear it on your sleeve. I'm guessing this is exactly what people are saying is off-putting about pro union behavior. Believe it or not, people do find it detestful when companies push back on unions with underhanded techniques. They get off-put when what is clearly propaganda comes out of their mouths. Pro-union people, representing the union online or anywhere else, are held much to the same standard that any company or corporate employee would.