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This take entirely ignores the invested human capital, which you lose entirely when you drive a worker to quit. Google have invested a lot into retaining their

by occz 5y ago

This take entirely ignores the invested human capital, which you lose entirely when you drive a worker to quit. Google have invested a lot into retaining their workers as well, so I'm sure that they know that as well.

azemetre 5y ago
Is Google even good at retaining employees? The average tenure appears to be 1 to 2 years. [1] [2] [3] Hardly enough time to even know the impact and costs of what you developed and shipped. Kind of makes you wonder what type of work force you're creating when a large percentage of them are constantly leaving. Maybe for ICs this isn't a concern compared to Directors, VPs, or maybe Staff SEs? [1] https://www.payscale.com/data-packages/employee-loyalty/full-list https://www.payscale.com/data-packages/employee-loyalty/full... [2] https://buffer.com/resources/employee-tenure/ https://buffer.com/resources/employee-tenure/ [3] https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2019/10/17/this-is-how-long-employees-typically-stay-at-tesla.html https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2019/10/17/thi... I mean it intuitively kind of makes sense. If you work in a city with many other high paying prestigious jobs, why wouldn't you job hop? There's little risk, whereas if you were in a city that had very few prospects you'd probably stick around longer. I live in Boston and I jump around every year'ish getting more salary at each place I've worked at. If you worked at Google (or any other prestigious company), I imagine it's far far easier interviewing else where. Especially if you jump from prestigious company to prestigious company.
- wombat-man 5y ago
  wow every year? I'm doing every 2-3 which I was worried would be too often.
  - azemetre 5y ago
    It's never hurt me, at least IME. I still get recruiters from Amazon, Facebook, Apple, WayFair, and HubSpot hounding once every few months. I think my only skills that stand out are a11y and data viz. A11y seems to be in a real demand as of the last two years, maybe that keeps me in the running? IDK. I figured people will always need devs and people really blow the "job hopper" thing out of proportion. Every job hopper I know makes a lot of money and they never struggled to find jobs. If anything they seem to have the best jobs from what I see.

by occz 5y ago

azemetre 5y ago

Is Google even good at retaining employees? The average tenure appears to be 1 to 2 years. [1] [2] [3] Hardly enough time to even know the impact and costs of what you developed and shipped. Kind of makes you wonder what type of work force you're creating when a large percentage of them are constantly leaving. Maybe for ICs this isn't a concern compared to Directors, VPs, or maybe Staff SEs? [1] https://www.payscale.com/data-packages/employee-loyalty/full-list https://www.payscale.com/data-packages/employee-loyalty/full... [2] https://buffer.com/resources/employee-tenure/ https://buffer.com/resources/employee-tenure/ [3] https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2019/10/17/this-is-how-long-employees-typically-stay-at-tesla.html https://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/news/2019/10/17/thi... I mean it intuitively kind of makes sense. If you work in a city with many other high paying prestigious jobs, why wouldn't you job hop? There's little risk, whereas if you were in a city that had very few prospects you'd probably stick around longer. I live in Boston and I jump around every year'ish getting more salary at each place I've worked at. If you worked at Google (or any other prestigious company), I imagine it's far far easier interviewing else where. Especially if you jump from prestigious company to prestigious company.

wombat-man 5y ago
wow every year? I'm doing every 2-3 which I was worried would be too often.
- azemetre 5y ago
  It's never hurt me, at least IME. I still get recruiters from Amazon, Facebook, Apple, WayFair, and HubSpot hounding once every few months. I think my only skills that stand out are a11y and data viz. A11y seems to be in a real demand as of the last two years, maybe that keeps me in the running? IDK. I figured people will always need devs and people really blow the "job hopper" thing out of proportion. Every job hopper I know makes a lot of money and they never struggled to find jobs. If anything they seem to have the best jobs from what I see.