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Youtube don't seem to want me as a customer. My setup is all running through Roku's. I run my Plex server, Dolby Atmos through an Ultra, and a tonne of other

by LightG 5y ago

Youtube don't seem to want me as a customer. My setup is all running through Roku's. I run my Plex server, Dolby Atmos through an Ultra, and a tonne of other channels through 3 Roku's. Youtube is the expendable link here. They can up their negotiation game and strategy ... or become obsolete in our house. It's the same with Sonos. I can't run or cast ad-based Youtube through Sonos either. Oh well. Am I going to give up Sonos? Nope. Bye Youtube (?) ... Obviously their business doesn't depend on me, but weird to see a once favourite website so relegated ...

darkwizard42 5y ago
One one hand, I see why selfishly you would not want to move off your well-established Roku network. However, do you not see that tomorrow Roku could do the same thing to your other "favorite channels" and squeeze them (which based on how they take a cut of subscription fees running through their hardware... not sure why Roku needs those fees.. it all seems like a squeeze) leaving you with a largely useless device that is pay-to-play for companies to run their channels through it?
- LightG 5y ago
  I'll be honest. It's not clear to me who's doing the squeezing here. All I understand clearly is the end result as a customer. And I'll switch away from Youtube far quicker than I switch away from Roku. To be honest though, it doesn't feel that much of a loss. Youtube TV was always a "handy to have". Youtube feels made for mobile or PC. Again, weird to recognise that relegation in my mind, and just clarifies their weakness on actual TV's. As for your final point. Accepted. If that starts happening, then over the medium term I'll transition to a different solution. But that's then, this is now.
sologoub 5y ago
Guessing your beloved sonos setup hasn’t run into the S1/S2 nightmare yet. Nothing like spending thousands on several of company’s products just to have the said company force obsolescence. Personally, sticking with real speakers from real audio companies that won’t force me into either fragmenting my setup or throwing stuff away.
- LightG 5y ago
  You're guessing wrong. Sonos is not beloved. I've heard all about the S1/S2 nightmare and I don't have a solution to it. I detested Sonos for that and tried to avoid them because of it, but no one has stepped up. Other multiroom audio solutions have sucked in my experience, so far. Maybe Bluesound stepped up, but that's it. And, kind of agreeing with you, I do stick with real speakers from real audio companies ... I just get the amps and multiroom app from Sonos. And, back on point, to not be able to do a simple cast of youtube to Sonos and, I'm guessing, potentially Roku, is just silly and I jetison Youtube because of it, not Roku or Sonos. Doesn't matter who is right or wrong, that's the impact.

by LightG 5y ago

darkwizard42 5y ago

One one hand, I see why selfishly you would not want to move off your well-established Roku network. However, do you not see that tomorrow Roku could do the same thing to your other "favorite channels" and squeeze them (which based on how they take a cut of subscription fees running through their hardware... not sure why Roku needs those fees.. it all seems like a squeeze) leaving you with a largely useless device that is pay-to-play for companies to run their channels through it?

LightG 5y ago
I'll be honest. It's not clear to me who's doing the squeezing here. All I understand clearly is the end result as a customer. And I'll switch away from Youtube far quicker than I switch away from Roku. To be honest though, it doesn't feel that much of a loss. Youtube TV was always a "handy to have". Youtube feels made for mobile or PC. Again, weird to recognise that relegation in my mind, and just clarifies their weakness on actual TV's. As for your final point. Accepted. If that starts happening, then over the medium term I'll transition to a different solution. But that's then, this is now.

sologoub 5y ago

Guessing your beloved sonos setup hasn’t run into the S1/S2 nightmare yet. Nothing like spending thousands on several of company’s products just to have the said company force obsolescence. Personally, sticking with real speakers from real audio companies that won’t force me into either fragmenting my setup or throwing stuff away.

LightG 5y ago
You're guessing wrong. Sonos is not beloved. I've heard all about the S1/S2 nightmare and I don't have a solution to it. I detested Sonos for that and tried to avoid them because of it, but no one has stepped up. Other multiroom audio solutions have sucked in my experience, so far. Maybe Bluesound stepped up, but that's it. And, kind of agreeing with you, I do stick with real speakers from real audio companies ... I just get the amps and multiroom app from Sonos. And, back on point, to not be able to do a simple cast of youtube to Sonos and, I'm guessing, potentially Roku, is just silly and I jetison Youtube because of it, not Roku or Sonos. Doesn't matter who is right or wrong, that's the impact.