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>They shouldn't be allowed to run an App Store, and they should probably have their services division peeled away into a separate company. I think the ship has

by treis 6y ago

>They shouldn't be allowed to run an App Store, and they should probably have their services division peeled away into a separate company. I think the ship has sailed on App stores. They're just better than the alternative and consumers are used to them. I'd consider them an integral part of the OS. The problem is the fees. 30% is excessive especially so for in-app purchases where the customer is already acquired. The easiest and cleanest solution is to just cap these to something more reasonable. Something like 5% or maybe CC transaction costs + a couple percent.

LegitShady 6y ago
% of revenue shouldn't be a thing. They're offering a service for distributing apps - there should be a standard fee and transaction costs. When I go to get tires on my car they don't charge me based on my income. When I purchase a book they don't charge a percentage of my income. On the app store suddenly you owe them a % of your revenue and you have to use them to get apps on iphone.
AnthonyMouse 6y ago
> I think the ship has sailed on App stores. They're just better than the alternative and consumers are used to them. I'd consider them an integral part of the OS. If customers really want app stores then prohibit platform companies from operating them and third parties will do it. But they'll compete with each other instead of abusing a monopoly into high fees and prohibitions on apps that compete with the platform's business interests. Or if app stores fall out of favor as soon as they're not imposed on everyone by platform monopolies then it disproves your theory that most people independently want them.
valparaiso 6y ago
30% is industry standard. Spotify takes 50% fee from Anchor; Tencent takes 50% fee in its China Android App Store and owns 48% of Epic Games. If you mention Tencent fee in Tim Sweeny Twitter you'll get instantly banned. Amazon's Twitch also takes 50%. But everyone's mad at Apple since they produce products and services everyone buys, even Google engineers mostly use iPhones and Macbooks.

by treis 6y ago

LegitShady 6y ago

% of revenue shouldn't be a thing. They're offering a service for distributing apps - there should be a standard fee and transaction costs. When I go to get tires on my car they don't charge me based on my income. When I purchase a book they don't charge a percentage of my income. On the app store suddenly you owe them a % of your revenue and you have to use them to get apps on iphone.

AnthonyMouse 6y ago

> I think the ship has sailed on App stores. They're just better than the alternative and consumers are used to them. I'd consider them an integral part of the OS. If customers really want app stores then prohibit platform companies from operating them and third parties will do it. But they'll compete with each other instead of abusing a monopoly into high fees and prohibitions on apps that compete with the platform's business interests. Or if app stores fall out of favor as soon as they're not imposed on everyone by platform monopolies then it disproves your theory that most people independently want them.

valparaiso 6y ago

30% is industry standard. Spotify takes 50% fee from Anchor; Tencent takes 50% fee in its China Android App Store and owns 48% of Epic Games. If you mention Tencent fee in Tim Sweeny Twitter you'll get instantly banned. Amazon's Twitch also takes 50%. But everyone's mad at Apple since they produce products and services everyone buys, even Google engineers mostly use iPhones and Macbooks.