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Because sometimes you have no choice then build a mobile app and you have to build it for what your customers use, I can't ask my customers to switch to some Li

Because sometimes you have no choice then build a mobile app and you have to build it for what your customers use, I can't ask my customers to switch to some Linux phone or PC because I have the choice to build only Linux stuff. From the POV of users I would like to see soemthing to make it easy to escape the lockin, like to be able to keep your movies and apps.

endisneigh 6y ago
The vast majority of businesses have no app presence. I honestly don’t understand. In no way are Apple devices and electricity access comparable. Phone ecosystems come and go - energy access is forever.
- simion314 6y ago
  Why should a percentage of businesses be relevant? If I want to deliver food can I ask my customers to use a Linux PC because I only have a Linux app? Can you tell your customers that your website only works on Safari? As a company you have to implement what the customers want, not what you want. Apple controlling the market means you have to (even if you are not forced by a law of nature) make sure your webiste works on Apple devices and if customers want/need mobile apps (maybe because it needs access to native APIs or other shit that you can't do from a web page) you need to have an iOS and an Android app. Apple is not forced to sell in EU either, they will fight this but they are doomed to fail and I think the US is also locking into this, and you also have the right to repair movement that would hopefully also force Apple to do the right thing,
  - endisneigh 6y ago
    > If I want to deliver food can I ask my customers to use a Linux PC because I only have a Linux app? Can you tell your customers that your website only works on Safari? Sure why not? Businesses don’t have to do anything. They can and do support things arbitrarily and customers choose which business to engage with based off those decisions. Apple and Google are following the same rules. Hopefully those rules change, but I doubt it.
    - simion314 6y ago
      >Sure why not Are you trolling? or do not understand business?
      - endisneigh 6y ago
        I do understand business. You understand that customers are free to move on if they don't like a business' practices right? There are business's today whose websites only work on certain browsers, so I don't know what you're going on about to begin with.
        simion314 6y ago
        >You understand that customers are free to move on if they don't like a business' False. Not when there is a monopoly or the cost is too big(do you need examples? or definitions?) >There are business's today whose websites only work on certain browsers Sure, show me more then one excpetion of a company that made a web product from scratch in the latest 10 years and their product supports ONLY a browser with less then 50% market share. But if you REALLY think(and not trolling) that a real business like restaurant/gym/parking place/shop can support only Linux phones then stop replying , just buy a iPhone from US when the EU version will be unlock-able.

endisneigh 6y ago

The vast majority of businesses have no app presence. I honestly don’t understand. In no way are Apple devices and electricity access comparable. Phone ecosystems come and go - energy access is forever.

simion314 6y ago
Why should a percentage of businesses be relevant? If I want to deliver food can I ask my customers to use a Linux PC because I only have a Linux app? Can you tell your customers that your website only works on Safari? As a company you have to implement what the customers want, not what you want. Apple controlling the market means you have to (even if you are not forced by a law of nature) make sure your webiste works on Apple devices and if customers want/need mobile apps (maybe because it needs access to native APIs or other shit that you can't do from a web page) you need to have an iOS and an Android app. Apple is not forced to sell in EU either, they will fight this but they are doomed to fail and I think the US is also locking into this, and you also have the right to repair movement that would hopefully also force Apple to do the right thing,
- endisneigh 6y ago
  > If I want to deliver food can I ask my customers to use a Linux PC because I only have a Linux app? Can you tell your customers that your website only works on Safari? Sure why not? Businesses don’t have to do anything. They can and do support things arbitrarily and customers choose which business to engage with based off those decisions. Apple and Google are following the same rules. Hopefully those rules change, but I doubt it.
  - simion314 6y ago
    >Sure why not Are you trolling? or do not understand business?
    - endisneigh 6y ago
      I do understand business. You understand that customers are free to move on if they don't like a business' practices right? There are business's today whose websites only work on certain browsers, so I don't know what you're going on about to begin with.
      - simion314 6y ago
        >You understand that customers are free to move on if they don't like a business' False. Not when there is a monopoly or the cost is too big(do you need examples? or definitions?) >There are business's today whose websites only work on certain browsers Sure, show me more then one excpetion of a company that made a web product from scratch in the latest 10 years and their product supports ONLY a browser with less then 50% market share. But if you REALLY think(and not trolling) that a real business like restaurant/gym/parking place/shop can support only Linux phones then stop replying , just buy a iPhone from US when the EU version will be unlock-able.