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Apple has no incentive to make PWA or web apps work natively since they don't get their 30% cut on that. Steve jobs made it abundantly clear when he blocked Fl
by Crazyontap 5y ago
Apple has no incentive to make PWA or web apps work natively since they don't get their 30% cut on that.
Steve jobs made it abundantly clear when he blocked Flash on iOS citing battery and security reasons and every developer including myself hailed it as the best thing that could to the internet then; never figuring out the insidiousness of such changes and how it was a priority for Apple to cripple the web browser and keep it crippled to make their App store flourish and get more % cut on apps. They have made billions of dollars doing that and Steve jobs was truly a visionary in this regard.
- tehwebguy 5y agoAs someone who was glad that Flash was never supported in the first place I'm twice as glad mobile web notifications aren't supported!
- swiley 5y agoIf only your posts weren't supported by hackernews. Why is it Apple users feel so strongly about what other people can run on their computers?
- emsy 5y agoYou're always asked if you want to enable notifications.
- tehwebguy 5y agoExactly, it would be super annoying for every mobile site I visit to prompt me for notification permissions.
- hauxir 5y agosurely that could be solved by a single switch in the settings that disables all web notifications? I believe most desktop browsers have that already.
- sa1 5y agoI would be happy with a compromise where a single switch in the settings enables notifications for people who want them.
- adkadskhj 5y agoSo you propose solving that annoyance by disabling the tech entirely? Maybe we should disable the browser entirely, so now you don't have annoying sites to worry about at all! Solving a minor UX concern, easily solved by defaults and settings mind you, by deleting the feature entirely is an absurd argument.
- wayneftw 5y agoDesktop Chrome has this feature. If it annoys you, you simply turn off the entire feature altogether. Problem solved.
- kristiandupont 5y agoThe solution to this is to only allow it if the user "installed" the PWA by adding it to their home screen. Same with the other complex api's like bluetooth etc.
- pentae 5y agoI can think of numerous websites i'd like notifications on. HN comment replies, for example. But let's keep limiting peoples choices
- emsy 5y agoThere was a recent reveal in court documents where Apple tried together with Adobe to make it work but Adobe couldn't pull it off. Now, I think the point about Apple not being interested in PWAs still stands but I think this kind of thinking is rather new at Apple and ever increasing since Tim Cook took over (Other, better examples of this line of thinking are imo, the omission of critical accessories, the ridiculous upselling in all product families and the increasing intrusion of Apple ads in the OS).
- grezql 5y agosame with other tech like WebRTC. Till this day Apple has hobbled the WebRTC so much that Zoom, Teams etc are reliant on native apps. Atleast EU are about to punish these for anti-competetive behaviour
- tootie 5y agoI saw the Flash thing for what it was. And all their privacy features are not about being pro-consumer as much as they're about trying to choke off Google's revenue. I can't believe how many developers and other tech-savvy people seem willing to let Apple get away with their blatantly anti-competitive behavior. If you own an iOS device, you're not able to put code you wrote onto that device without both an Apple computer and and Apple developer account. And you probably need Apple's programming language and editor. And none of their devices are expandable or repairable despite charging a premium.
- osrec 5y agoFYI, Steve Jobs originally wanted everything on the iPhone to be web apps. He changed course a little later.