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Its worth noting that the UK fishing industry is dominated by a handful of mega-trawlers that are under largely international ownership, and therefore its not c

by fergie 5y ago

Its worth noting that the UK fishing industry is dominated by a handful of mega-trawlers that are under largely international ownership, and therefore its not clear that the UK _should_ be using its diplomatic power to seek concessions on behalf of these interests. See also "Brexit trade deal: Who really owns UK fishing quotas?" -> https://www.bbc.com/news/52420116 https://www.bbc.com/news/52420116

fmajid 5y ago
The best example is this article, where one trawler alone accounts for 10% of the cod sold in fish-and-chip shops, caught in Norwegian waters.
Y-bar 5y ago
Tangent on the stock photo in the article: Some of the cod fish on that conveyor in the first photo look very young, maybe young enough to never have spawned once. Look at the one being held, a hand can almost grip around the entire fish at the mid of its body.
- reason-mr 5y ago
  I grew up on the east coast of the uk. When I was a kid in the 70’s my brother and I would catch huge cod right off the beach with beachcaster rods. Now he tells me there are no big fish left, only small ones, and few of those come in. He doesn’t bother fishing anymore. IMO the time for taking fish is done - we need to leave the ocean alone and let it heal. Also, we clearly have a population boom based on over exploitation of natural resources. Fish - depleted, topsoil - in bad shape, bees - in bad shape. Typical natural world bubble of a species that ate all of the available prey.
FriedrichN 5y ago
>£160m worth of England's fishing quota is in the hands of vessels owned by companies based in Iceland, Spain and the Netherlands, according to BBC research. >That amounts to 130,000 tonnes of fish a year and 55% of the quota's annual value in 2019. This shows how trivial the fishing industry is in the UK if you compare it to the $2.638 trillion 2020 GDP. It's truly amazing how one of the least important issues of Brexit came to be one of the most spoken of. My guess is that economics and international politics are just too complex and abstract for just about anyone to understand. So if you take something more tangible like someone literally fishing in your waters it speaks to the imagination more than things like free flow of goods and persons.

by fergie 5y ago

fmajid 5y ago

The best example is this article, where one trawler alone accounts for 10% of the cod sold in fish-and-chip shops, caught in Norwegian waters.

Y-bar 5y ago

Tangent on the stock photo in the article: Some of the cod fish on that conveyor in the first photo look very young, maybe young enough to never have spawned once. Look at the one being held, a hand can almost grip around the entire fish at the mid of its body.

reason-mr 5y ago
I grew up on the east coast of the uk. When I was a kid in the 70’s my brother and I would catch huge cod right off the beach with beachcaster rods. Now he tells me there are no big fish left, only small ones, and few of those come in. He doesn’t bother fishing anymore. IMO the time for taking fish is done - we need to leave the ocean alone and let it heal. Also, we clearly have a population boom based on over exploitation of natural resources. Fish - depleted, topsoil - in bad shape, bees - in bad shape. Typical natural world bubble of a species that ate all of the available prey.

FriedrichN 5y ago

>£160m worth of England's fishing quota is in the hands of vessels owned by companies based in Iceland, Spain and the Netherlands, according to BBC research. >That amounts to 130,000 tonnes of fish a year and 55% of the quota's annual value in 2019. This shows how trivial the fishing industry is in the UK if you compare it to the $2.638 trillion 2020 GDP. It's truly amazing how one of the least important issues of Brexit came to be one of the most spoken of. My guess is that economics and international politics are just too complex and abstract for just about anyone to understand. So if you take something more tangible like someone literally fishing in your waters it speaks to the imagination more than things like free flow of goods and persons.