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Har har, but Vista actually changed a number of fundamental things about XP, including a totally new security model, an overhaul of the graphics system to move

by aston 18y ago

Har har, but Vista actually changed a number of fundamental things about XP, including a totally new security model, an overhaul of the graphics system to move it out of the kernel, and a ton of new performance optimizations like SuperFetch. What's changed so much about desktop Linux in the same time? Compiz?

rincewind 18y ago
You ask whats changed about "desktop Linux". How is the new graphics system an advantage for users of "desktop Windows"? The problem with this discussion is the choice Linux users have. You can always say Linux has a poor user experience by referring to the software for Linux you hate most. On the other hand Linux users can say: "it is just an operating system" or "you picked the wrong distro" or "don't use fluxbox/emacs/the command line/compiz if you don't like it". You can not not campare apples to oranges when you compare any subset of the GNU/Linux software ecosystem to windows. That being said, the security model in Vista annoys the hell out of everybody I know who uses Vista. Everytime they interact with this new security model, it interrupts their workflow and makes them a little bit frustrated and angry, quite like a fnord.
jauco 18y ago
XP was released in 2001, Let's just remind ourselves that the first ubuntu came out in 2004. A _lot_ has changed since the linux of 2001. Including the graphical system (compiz, released 2006) everything in the 2.6 kernel (released 2003) the hardware abstraction layer/project utopia (somewhere around 2003), a new sound system, pulsaudio (2004). And if you take into acount that the start of windows vista's coding cycle lay before the release of windows XP, you might want to include the gstreamer media framework. They've come a long way. P.S. They never bothered to reimplement the security model. Though some improved models have been available since before 2001.

by aston 18y ago

rincewind 18y ago

You ask whats changed about "desktop Linux". How is the new graphics system an advantage for users of "desktop Windows"? The problem with this discussion is the choice Linux users have. You can always say Linux has a poor user experience by referring to the software for Linux you hate most. On the other hand Linux users can say: "it is just an operating system" or "you picked the wrong distro" or "don't use fluxbox/emacs/the command line/compiz if you don't like it". You can not not campare apples to oranges when you compare any subset of the GNU/Linux software ecosystem to windows. That being said, the security model in Vista annoys the hell out of everybody I know who uses Vista. Everytime they interact with this new security model, it interrupts their workflow and makes them a little bit frustrated and angry, quite like a fnord.

jauco 18y ago

XP was released in 2001, Let's just remind ourselves that the first ubuntu came out in 2004. A _lot_ has changed since the linux of 2001. Including the graphical system (compiz, released 2006) everything in the 2.6 kernel (released 2003) the hardware abstraction layer/project utopia (somewhere around 2003), a new sound system, pulsaudio (2004). And if you take into acount that the start of windows vista's coding cycle lay before the release of windows XP, you might want to include the gstreamer media framework. They've come a long way. P.S. They never bothered to reimplement the security model. Though some improved models have been available since before 2001.