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We were warned of bad outcomes if precautions weren't taken. Precautions were taken, and the worst outcomes were avoided. This doesn't invalidate the prior war

We were warned of bad outcomes if precautions weren't taken. Precautions were taken, and the worst outcomes were avoided. This doesn't invalidate the prior warning. I don't want to assume bad intentions on your part but I'm not really sure what you want us to conclude from these posts... elaborate?

fullshark 5y ago
That it wasn't predictable or obvious flu cases would go to near zero. These news stories are not about how if we do X then flu cases will go to near zero, and most operate under the assumption flu season is coming and will likely be a "twindemic" that needs to be mitigated/lessened. It didn't come and now we are pretending it was clear it was never coming. Just tired of people using selective memories to pretend that the last year wasn't chaotic and full of many wrong predictions, from experts and novices alike. Some humility would be appreciated.
- robertlagrant 5y ago
  You're lumping the poster in with all the experts and novices. They're one person, saying one thing. You need a link to _them_ saying the opposite to substantiate your criticism of their statement.
- jjav 5y ago
  > That it wasn't predictable or obvious flu cases would go to near zero. How could it not be predictable? I get the cold/flu when I or someone in the family is exposed to someone sick and it gets passed on. If we're all staying in the house and not going anywhere for a year, by what mechanism could we possibly get sick? Seemed predictable to me. In any case, it's been so awesome to not be sick in over a year. With elementary school kid, it used to be I was sick every few weeks all year long. Not looking forward to going back to that kind of normal.
  - fullshark 5y ago
    And yet I really don't remember any discussion at all about how flu season was going to be nonexistent this winter in the media. No discussion about how if we socially distance flu deaths would drop almost 97% (22000 -> 600). I guess no one decided to write a news story about it cause it was so predictable, dog bites man and all.
    - awwaiid 5y ago
      I recall articles about it last September. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6937a6.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6937a6.htm
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AndrewUnmuted 5y ago
Why would the conclusions drawn from the post indicate bad intentions? The warnings you're referring to were predicated on a pretty generic and nondescript need to get people vaccinated. This was a widespread messaging campaign in the media, heavy on the threats but not specificity. Instead of what was threatened all summer, what actually happened was that flu disappeared AND people were being chastised for poor compliance with local ordinances and vaccination.

fullshark 5y ago

That it wasn't predictable or obvious flu cases would go to near zero. These news stories are not about how if we do X then flu cases will go to near zero, and most operate under the assumption flu season is coming and will likely be a "twindemic" that needs to be mitigated/lessened. It didn't come and now we are pretending it was clear it was never coming. Just tired of people using selective memories to pretend that the last year wasn't chaotic and full of many wrong predictions, from experts and novices alike. Some humility would be appreciated.

robertlagrant 5y ago
You're lumping the poster in with all the experts and novices. They're one person, saying one thing. You need a link to _them_ saying the opposite to substantiate your criticism of their statement.
jjav 5y ago
> That it wasn't predictable or obvious flu cases would go to near zero. How could it not be predictable? I get the cold/flu when I or someone in the family is exposed to someone sick and it gets passed on. If we're all staying in the house and not going anywhere for a year, by what mechanism could we possibly get sick? Seemed predictable to me. In any case, it's been so awesome to not be sick in over a year. With elementary school kid, it used to be I was sick every few weeks all year long. Not looking forward to going back to that kind of normal.
- fullshark 5y ago
  And yet I really don't remember any discussion at all about how flu season was going to be nonexistent this winter in the media. No discussion about how if we socially distance flu deaths would drop almost 97% (22000 -> 600). I guess no one decided to write a news story about it cause it was so predictable, dog bites man and all.
  - awwaiid 5y ago
    I recall articles about it last September. https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6937a6.htm https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6937a6.htm
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AndrewUnmuted 5y ago

Why would the conclusions drawn from the post indicate bad intentions? The warnings you're referring to were predicated on a pretty generic and nondescript need to get people vaccinated. This was a widespread messaging campaign in the media, heavy on the threats but not specificity. Instead of what was threatened all summer, what actually happened was that flu disappeared AND people were being chastised for poor compliance with local ordinances and vaccination.