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The Wikipedia article[0], has some interesting speculation about this. Main ideas behind the cause seems to be either some directed energy pulse or potentially

The Wikipedia article[0], has some interesting speculation about this. Main ideas behind the cause seems to be either some directed energy pulse or potentially a ultrasound weapon. These kind of invisible weapons are utterly terrifying to me and I feel that they'll just become more prevalent in the coming decades. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havana_syndrome https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havana_syndrome

viro 5y ago
So this a super hot take, but someone is asking for an ass whooping. This is basically an act of war. I'm going to just leave it at that. This isn't some random hack, kinetic attack demands kinetic response.
- nickkell 5y ago
  Who exactly would you like to go to war with? The martians?
  - viro 5y ago
    Who ever is intently committing war crimes against diplomats on American soil. did you not read the brain damage part?
    - atat7024 5y ago
      Attribution is hard with digital attacks. In hacker communities, it's considered best practice to avoid making enemies — a good policy.
      - ethanbond 5y ago
        As mentioned, this is a kinetic attack. Attribution will still be hard, but the motivation to attribute (correctly) will be much much higher than most cyber attacks.
- atat7024 5y ago
  US won't do a thing if it interrupts the revenue revenue streams of the Elite.
  - w0de0 5y ago
    This is a sophomoric understanding of our complex nation and its many power centers. Cynicism is an easy masquerade for wisdom, but don’t fool yourself too.
    - lucas_codes 5y ago
      It's a short comment on the internet, it can be essentially correct (or not) without elaborating on societal complexities
- encryptluks2 5y ago
  And what if the US was the one who created the technology and started using it first?
  - deleted 5y ago
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  - viro 5y ago
    Who ever made the order to use it on non-soldiers in a non-combat zone should go to jail for life.
nomel 5y ago
It seems like some wideband audio and RF sensors would be able to easily detect this. If it's skull penetrating, I doubt you would even have to place them that densely to detect something out of the ordinary, regardless of the directionality of the source. There's probably a government contract opportunity for a wearable detector here.
floam 5y ago
The recent National Academies study for the Department of State seemed to not think it is ultrasonic: https://federalnewsnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Havana-Syndrome-report.pdf https://federalnewsnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Ha... Some kind of pulsed RF/microwave seemed to be the most likely?
- thoughtstheseus 5y ago
  Thank you for sharing this. It’s helpful to see that others have put substantial work into this problem.
vondur 5y ago
How focused would this need to be to target this particular area? Shouldn’t we see people nearby also affected?

viro 5y ago

So this a super hot take, but someone is asking for an ass whooping. This is basically an act of war. I'm going to just leave it at that. This isn't some random hack, kinetic attack demands kinetic response.

nickkell 5y ago
Who exactly would you like to go to war with? The martians?
- viro 5y ago
  Who ever is intently committing war crimes against diplomats on American soil. did you not read the brain damage part?
  - atat7024 5y ago
    Attribution is hard with digital attacks. In hacker communities, it's considered best practice to avoid making enemies — a good policy.
    - ethanbond 5y ago
      As mentioned, this is a kinetic attack. Attribution will still be hard, but the motivation to attribute (correctly) will be much much higher than most cyber attacks.
atat7024 5y ago
US won't do a thing if it interrupts the revenue revenue streams of the Elite.
- w0de0 5y ago
  This is a sophomoric understanding of our complex nation and its many power centers. Cynicism is an easy masquerade for wisdom, but don’t fool yourself too.
  - lucas_codes 5y ago
    It's a short comment on the internet, it can be essentially correct (or not) without elaborating on societal complexities
encryptluks2 5y ago
And what if the US was the one who created the technology and started using it first?
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
- viro 5y ago
  Who ever made the order to use it on non-soldiers in a non-combat zone should go to jail for life.

nomel 5y ago

It seems like some wideband audio and RF sensors would be able to easily detect this. If it's skull penetrating, I doubt you would even have to place them that densely to detect something out of the ordinary, regardless of the directionality of the source. There's probably a government contract opportunity for a wearable detector here.

floam 5y ago

The recent National Academies study for the Department of State seemed to not think it is ultrasonic: https://federalnewsnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Havana-Syndrome-report.pdf https://federalnewsnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/Ha... Some kind of pulsed RF/microwave seemed to be the most likely?

thoughtstheseus 5y ago
Thank you for sharing this. It’s helpful to see that others have put substantial work into this problem.

vondur 5y ago

How focused would this need to be to target this particular area? Shouldn’t we see people nearby also affected?