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> And if there are fewer deaths from flu, and fewer from suicide [1], then excess mortality itself is under-reported and Covid killed even more than we thought.
by rajin444 5y ago
> And if there are fewer deaths from flu, and fewer from suicide [1], then excess mortality itself is under-reported and Covid killed even more than we thought.
The majority of covid deaths are those that on average had very few months left to live. There is a likely a high chance these people were going to die to the next "flu" that came around.
How do you account for this? It seems like adding flu deaths on top of covid is incorrect - both would only have a subset of people that are going to die from it, and while covid's is probably more than the flu (depending on the flu strain - we've had some pretty bad flu years), since they both share the same pool I don't think you can add flu deaths in.
On top of that, we had a relatively light flu season preceding covid. This would also need to somehow be accounted for, but I'm not sure how. There was likely a "dry tinder" effect.
- DanBC 5y ago> The majority of covid deaths are those that on average had very few months left to live. In England we know covid is killing people on average at least 10 years early.
- mensetmanusman 5y ago10 years earlier from when they would have died from the flu? Or is a flu death also some # of years earlier than {median death age}?
- widget1321 5y ago10 years earlier than they would have been expected to die without catching COVID. From anything, not just the flu. All-cause mortality includes flu deaths, yes, if that's what you're asking?
- thebruce87m 5y agoIf they only had a few months left to live, we should see a spike in the opposite direction for excess mortality. You can monitor this yourself for some countries here: https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/ https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps/