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Leading virologists said not to give people anti-inflammatories at the beginning of the pandemic and probably killed a bunch of people. > At least the reputabl

Leading virologists said not to give people anti-inflammatories at the beginning of the pandemic and probably killed a bunch of people. > At least the reputable ones not fishing for cheap attention from paranoid conspiracy theorists. We're not talking about paranoid conspiracy theories here, we're talking about the inexplicable disappearance of influenza globally, when it should have the same transmission characteristics as corona virus. Corona might spread more rapidly, but it should spread in the same manner. It's entirely possible that the bulk of people with symptoms actually have a concurrent infection (eg, the flu). We already know the vast, vast majority of deaths have a 'comorbidity.'

space_fountain 5y ago
> when it should have the same transmission characteristics as corona virus. Corona might spread more rapidly, but it should spread in the same manner. That's just like not true. Different diseases spread differently. It seems like covid will spread better through smaller droplets for example. And even if it were you just said that covid spreads easier. Disease transmission isn't linear so if interventions were enough to dip Flu's reproduction rate below 1 we'd see more or less what we've seen. Very little spread. Even if we ignore all of that and pretend you're right and really this year of horror has just been Flu cases, the health care system almost collapse in Italy, NYC, LA, and now India is still a huge deal. Hugely more people are dying this year than do in an average year. People died, literally dies in all of these places because they weren't able to get into a hospital. I don't care if it was actually covid (it was) or not killing them
- linuxftw 5y ago
  > the health care system almost collapse in Italy, NYC, LA, and now India is still a huge deal. This I can agree with. But our way of dealing with the problem hasn't solved that going forward whatsoever. Are we going to ignore the fact that NYC has been shutting down hospitals for decades[1]? > Hugely more people are dying this year than do in an average year. Not according to the numbers I've seen. > People died, literally dies in all of these places because they weren't able to get into a hospital. What are the death rates for people in hospitals compared to people dying with covid outside of hospitals? What interventions are hospitals providing to most patients that are conclusively saving their lives? At first, it was ventilators, but that has quietly become not recommend for most patients. I happen to be close friends with someone that worked on the covid floor in a major regional hospital. Most people in the hospital were being treated for pneumonia, some of them were on supplemental oxygen. The hospital was never overrun, only a small portion was dedicated as a covid wing. My friend never contracted covid, nor did anyone else they worked with. 1: https://indypendent.org/2014/04/nycs-vanishing-hospitals/ https://indypendent.org/2014/04/nycs-vanishing-hospitals/

space_fountain 5y ago

> when it should have the same transmission characteristics as corona virus. Corona might spread more rapidly, but it should spread in the same manner. That's just like not true. Different diseases spread differently. It seems like covid will spread better through smaller droplets for example. And even if it were you just said that covid spreads easier. Disease transmission isn't linear so if interventions were enough to dip Flu's reproduction rate below 1 we'd see more or less what we've seen. Very little spread. Even if we ignore all of that and pretend you're right and really this year of horror has just been Flu cases, the health care system almost collapse in Italy, NYC, LA, and now India is still a huge deal. Hugely more people are dying this year than do in an average year. People died, literally dies in all of these places because they weren't able to get into a hospital. I don't care if it was actually covid (it was) or not killing them

linuxftw 5y ago
> the health care system almost collapse in Italy, NYC, LA, and now India is still a huge deal. This I can agree with. But our way of dealing with the problem hasn't solved that going forward whatsoever. Are we going to ignore the fact that NYC has been shutting down hospitals for decades[1]? > Hugely more people are dying this year than do in an average year. Not according to the numbers I've seen. > People died, literally dies in all of these places because they weren't able to get into a hospital. What are the death rates for people in hospitals compared to people dying with covid outside of hospitals? What interventions are hospitals providing to most patients that are conclusively saving their lives? At first, it was ventilators, but that has quietly become not recommend for most patients. I happen to be close friends with someone that worked on the covid floor in a major regional hospital. Most people in the hospital were being treated for pneumonia, some of them were on supplemental oxygen. The hospital was never overrun, only a small portion was dedicated as a covid wing. My friend never contracted covid, nor did anyone else they worked with. 1: https://indypendent.org/2014/04/nycs-vanishing-hospitals/ https://indypendent.org/2014/04/nycs-vanishing-hospitals/