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> it's roots took place ... from the black community > origins from the black community gotta give credit to the engineers who pioneered electronic music synt

> it's roots took place ... from the black community > origins from the black community gotta give credit to the engineers who pioneered electronic music synthesis, like Robert Moog, or the Japanese who created Korg synthesizers in the article. Influences for any technology, project, art, etc come from a large web of sources. Racial gatekeeping and attribution is close-minded. Let the people enjoy techno without guilt.

jamal-kumar 5y ago
Why guilt? The first stuff anyone started calling techno was pretty black. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhtdRd9AuIs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhtdRd9AuIs And that's OK, there's literally nothing wrong with this. I think there's also a lot of stuff to be said about how there's anecdotes about how the early rave scene had a lot of previously unheard of racial unity going on, stuff like skinhead and rasta gangs or even rival football ultras encountering each other and literally just vibing when they'd be fighting each other before
- devmunchies 5y ago
  > Why guilt? GP made it seem like whites being a big part of current techno scene is bad. > The first stuff anyone started calling techno was pretty black you could say the first stuff anyone started calling electronic music was pretty white. point is, racial attribution for something that has a huge array of influences is silly. > unheard of racial unity going on yes, the way it should be.
  - wolverine876 5y ago
    > GP made it seem like whites being a big part of current techno scene is bad. I don't see that; I don't see any "guilt", using your word. Can you point it out? People have other motives. My impression is that you brought your own (reactionary?) bias to it, using a reactionary talking point whether it really applies or not. Why bring down someone who is trying to expand their experiences, knowledge, and community, in a world where racism is common and leads to many people being excluded. We should work to include - that's great, creative, positive; there's no reason it needs to be motivated by guilt.
    - devmunchies 5y ago
      This confuses the heck out of me. I saw my comment as the more inclusive. > using a reactionary talking point ???
      - wolverine876 5y ago
        Probably your first time discussing these things on the Internet!
      - jamal-kumar 5y ago
        im gonna start a music project called sounding fun at techno parties
        devmunchies 5y ago
        reddit joke from 2015? wait am i just debating a bunch of redditors? makes me feel better about my opinion now.
      - randy909 5y ago
        Your reaction is akin to saying "all lives matter" in response to the Black Lives Matter movement. You can look up why it's wrong.
        Jesus_piece 5y ago
        Perfect analogy to this conversation
    - emptyfile 5y ago
      Ah yes. Telling americans to shut up about race already == "reactionary talking point"
  - zozbot234 5y ago
    This article is about techno specifically, not electronic music. There's a lot of electronic music that has nothing to do with techno - techno is a genre, like chiptune, trance or dubstep.
    - devmunchies 5y ago
      > As part of Beatportal’s new series on the history of electronic dance music, Marcus Barnes explores the rich history of techno, from the 1970s right through to today. it's a series about electronic music history.
Jesus_piece 5y ago
OP didn’t insinuate people should feel guilty. Those feelings you are having are of your own causing and interpretation. He was just stating facts
- devmunchies 5y ago
  oh i don't feel any guilt at all. I was interpreting OPs motive for changing their behavior, and why they felt the need to communicate it as if it were a noble act. > its prodimently white. I have since taken active steps to seek out the lesser know black artists to support I couldn't care less who the specific artist is for techno music i listen to.
  - Jesus_piece 5y ago
    Cool? Why can’t we all do what we please? OP has a different opinion and wants to honor the underrepresented people who inspired it

jamal-kumar 5y ago

Why guilt? The first stuff anyone started calling techno was pretty black. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhtdRd9AuIs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhtdRd9AuIs And that's OK, there's literally nothing wrong with this. I think there's also a lot of stuff to be said about how there's anecdotes about how the early rave scene had a lot of previously unheard of racial unity going on, stuff like skinhead and rasta gangs or even rival football ultras encountering each other and literally just vibing when they'd be fighting each other before

devmunchies 5y ago
> Why guilt? GP made it seem like whites being a big part of current techno scene is bad. > The first stuff anyone started calling techno was pretty black you could say the first stuff anyone started calling electronic music was pretty white. point is, racial attribution for something that has a huge array of influences is silly. > unheard of racial unity going on yes, the way it should be.
- wolverine876 5y ago
  > GP made it seem like whites being a big part of current techno scene is bad. I don't see that; I don't see any "guilt", using your word. Can you point it out? People have other motives. My impression is that you brought your own (reactionary?) bias to it, using a reactionary talking point whether it really applies or not. Why bring down someone who is trying to expand their experiences, knowledge, and community, in a world where racism is common and leads to many people being excluded. We should work to include - that's great, creative, positive; there's no reason it needs to be motivated by guilt.
  - devmunchies 5y ago
    This confuses the heck out of me. I saw my comment as the more inclusive. > using a reactionary talking point ???
    - wolverine876 5y ago
      Probably your first time discussing these things on the Internet!
    - jamal-kumar 5y ago
      im gonna start a music project called sounding fun at techno parties
      - devmunchies 5y ago
        reddit joke from 2015? wait am i just debating a bunch of redditors? makes me feel better about my opinion now.
    - randy909 5y ago
      Your reaction is akin to saying "all lives matter" in response to the Black Lives Matter movement. You can look up why it's wrong.
      - Jesus_piece 5y ago
        Perfect analogy to this conversation
  - emptyfile 5y ago
    Ah yes. Telling americans to shut up about race already == "reactionary talking point"
- zozbot234 5y ago
  This article is about techno specifically, not electronic music. There's a lot of electronic music that has nothing to do with techno - techno is a genre, like chiptune, trance or dubstep.
  - devmunchies 5y ago
    > As part of Beatportal’s new series on the history of electronic dance music, Marcus Barnes explores the rich history of techno, from the 1970s right through to today. it's a series about electronic music history.

Jesus_piece 5y ago

OP didn’t insinuate people should feel guilty. Those feelings you are having are of your own causing and interpretation. He was just stating facts

devmunchies 5y ago
oh i don't feel any guilt at all. I was interpreting OPs motive for changing their behavior, and why they felt the need to communicate it as if it were a noble act. > its prodimently white. I have since taken active steps to seek out the lesser know black artists to support I couldn't care less who the specific artist is for techno music i listen to.
- Jesus_piece 5y ago
  Cool? Why can’t we all do what we please? OP has a different opinion and wants to honor the underrepresented people who inspired it