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This is main reason I do not develop for mobile. I just can't stand someone else being in control of my products. However for many applications it is possible

by FpUser 6y ago

This is main reason I do not develop for mobile. I just can't stand someone else being in control of my products. However for many applications it is possible to have browser as a deployment platform. So I am thinking of porting a couple. In this case Google / Apple can not do much.

taylodl 6y ago
Unless you're running on your own servers residing in your own data centers and your servers in turn are running an open OS such as Linux or BSD then you're not in control of your own products. Lots of corporations run their internally-built applications in such an application hosting environment, almost no commercial software entity does. In any event, there's a HUGE market comprised of people not running software in these kinds of environments. If you want to provide products and services to them then there's a devil you're going to be forced to dance with, unless you want to build and operate your own cloud.
- FpUser 6y ago
  >"Unless you're running on your own servers residing in your own data centers and your servers in turn are running an open OS such as Linux" You are teaching fish how to swim. I host my own servers and also standby dedicated servers on Hetzner. Sure In theory ISP and Hetzner (two completely different companies on different continents) can conspire and temporarily cut my oxygen but probability of it messing with my business vs Google / Apple is incomparable. >"If you want to provide products and services to them then there's a devil you're going to be forced to dance with, unless you want to build and operate your own cloud." I am sorry but I can't see any "devil". even though I was running my own servers since 2000. I do not need cloud as my backend are my own high performance servers written in C++. Over the years I kept changing hardware every once in a while and have never needed more than one box to serve my production. My current production box is 24 core CPU with 512GB RAM and handles load just fine without breaking much sweat. So yes I am in as much control of my own business as reasonably possible and no I do not spend much time maintaining it. I can recreate complete server on new hardware from the scratch by running single shell script written by yours truly. Consumer facing end is Windows Desktop Application that does not need any figgin store.

by FpUser 6y ago

taylodl 6y ago

Unless you're running on your own servers residing in your own data centers and your servers in turn are running an open OS such as Linux or BSD then you're not in control of your own products. Lots of corporations run their internally-built applications in such an application hosting environment, almost no commercial software entity does. In any event, there's a HUGE market comprised of people not running software in these kinds of environments. If you want to provide products and services to them then there's a devil you're going to be forced to dance with, unless you want to build and operate your own cloud.

FpUser 6y ago
>"Unless you're running on your own servers residing in your own data centers and your servers in turn are running an open OS such as Linux" You are teaching fish how to swim. I host my own servers and also standby dedicated servers on Hetzner. Sure In theory ISP and Hetzner (two completely different companies on different continents) can conspire and temporarily cut my oxygen but probability of it messing with my business vs Google / Apple is incomparable. >"If you want to provide products and services to them then there's a devil you're going to be forced to dance with, unless you want to build and operate your own cloud." I am sorry but I can't see any "devil". even though I was running my own servers since 2000. I do not need cloud as my backend are my own high performance servers written in C++. Over the years I kept changing hardware every once in a while and have never needed more than one box to serve my production. My current production box is 24 core CPU with 512GB RAM and handles load just fine without breaking much sweat. So yes I am in as much control of my own business as reasonably possible and no I do not spend much time maintaining it. I can recreate complete server on new hardware from the scratch by running single shell script written by yours truly. Consumer facing end is Windows Desktop Application that does not need any figgin store.