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> This is like asking how to tow the Space Shuttle with your pickup truck. It can be done (Toyota did it with a Tundra pickup for marketing), but no one is sell

> This is like asking how to tow the Space Shuttle with your pickup truck. It can be done (Toyota did it with a Tundra pickup for marketing), but no one is selling into a market to do so. Sorry but that's a ridiculous comparison, I just want to be able to drive to places my current gasoline vehicle can travel to, but in an electric car. Also there are large numbers of people out west camping, climbing, skiing, etc on all sorts of remote backcountry roads far from services. Its the reason many of us live out here.

toomuchtodo 5y ago
How many vehicles a year do you think get sold to folks who are going to be so far off the grid, they might consider jerrycans for fuel security? 10k? 20k? 17 million new cars a year are sold, for comparison. I admit you adventurous folks exist (and commend your wild spirit), just not in sufficient quantity to sell vehicles at volume, considering the average American light vehicle use case (a few road trips a year, ~40 mile daily round trip commutes).
- 2trill2spill 5y ago
  I think your looking at this all wrong. Why would I or any other person spend $30,000 - $50,000 on a vehicle that is less capable then the vehicle I currently own? I cant charge at my apartment so I'm totally dependent on charging infrastructure, which is slower, has less locations and has compatibility issues that gas stations do not have. Even if most Americans dont use the full capabilities of their ICE car, why would they pay more for a less capable EV?
  - toomuchtodo 5y ago
    If new gas vehicles are banned, it’s not much of a choice. Several states have new combustion vehicles bans (between 2030-2035), and more are expected to follow. I’m looking at it from the perspective of what options are left, based on the legislation I mention.
    - 2trill2spill 5y ago
      I'm assuming the charging infrastructure, and electric vehicles in general around 2030 - 2035 to be way better and not suffer from these issues I mentioned above. I just think right now EVs are unpractical for people who don't live in their own house and people who travel long distances or into very remote areas.

toomuchtodo 5y ago

How many vehicles a year do you think get sold to folks who are going to be so far off the grid, they might consider jerrycans for fuel security? 10k? 20k? 17 million new cars a year are sold, for comparison. I admit you adventurous folks exist (and commend your wild spirit), just not in sufficient quantity to sell vehicles at volume, considering the average American light vehicle use case (a few road trips a year, ~40 mile daily round trip commutes).

2trill2spill 5y ago
I think your looking at this all wrong. Why would I or any other person spend $30,000 - $50,000 on a vehicle that is less capable then the vehicle I currently own? I cant charge at my apartment so I'm totally dependent on charging infrastructure, which is slower, has less locations and has compatibility issues that gas stations do not have. Even if most Americans dont use the full capabilities of their ICE car, why would they pay more for a less capable EV?
- toomuchtodo 5y ago
  If new gas vehicles are banned, it’s not much of a choice. Several states have new combustion vehicles bans (between 2030-2035), and more are expected to follow. I’m looking at it from the perspective of what options are left, based on the legislation I mention.
  - 2trill2spill 5y ago
    I'm assuming the charging infrastructure, and electric vehicles in general around 2030 - 2035 to be way better and not suffer from these issues I mentioned above. I just think right now EVs are unpractical for people who don't live in their own house and people who travel long distances or into very remote areas.