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I'm pretty sure porn has prevented people from getting so sad and desperate that they are driven to abuse real people, kind of like how people develop emotional

I'm pretty sure porn has prevented people from getting so sad and desperate that they are driven to abuse real people, kind of like how people develop emotional bonds with television characters when their life is empty.

alpaca128 6y ago
In the long term that's just as empty, though. You just can't replace real social contacts with digital media.
_pmf_ 6y ago
> I'm pretty sure porn has prevented people from getting so sad and desperate that they are driven to abuse real people Pretty sure the opposite is true.
- camjohnson26 6y ago
  Ted Bundy claimed in his final interview extremely violent pornography desensitized him and made him start looking for stronger stimulation. I’m not sure how much you can trust his claims though.
  - ggggtez 6y ago
    Don't even suggest it. Billions of people on earth consume pornography. If this theory was right, there should be billions of serial killers. And remember: in the 1970s, his "extreme pornography" would be something a lot more tame than you can pull up during your lunch hour today. Some people are just naturally ill-fit for living in society, and the fix in not policing pornography. The fix is mental health medicine and psychiatry.
  - true_religion 6y ago
    Asking mad men to self diagnose the origins of their condition sounds like a bad idea. Even for normative people asking them how their fundamental morals changes would be usually be an unanswerable tar pit.
- CuriouslyC 6y ago
  I'd rather have an incel staying home and jerking off to porn than going out and trying to rufie a girl at a social gathering (or worse). Men without a sexual outlet become aggressive with or without porn.
mlinsey 6y ago
I find either take here to be plausible, is there any good research? (I can't imagine how to ethically run an experiment, but maybe someone's figured that out)
- KittenInABox 6y ago
  I googled briefly and stumbled upon this[0] meta-study from 2020, no idea how good the research/journal is. It seems there's no broad consensus, research in this field is more influenced by expectations of researchers than real strong methodology. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1524838020942754 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/152483802094275...

alpaca128 6y ago

In the long term that's just as empty, though. You just can't replace real social contacts with digital media.

_pmf_ 6y ago

> I'm pretty sure porn has prevented people from getting so sad and desperate that they are driven to abuse real people Pretty sure the opposite is true.

camjohnson26 6y ago
Ted Bundy claimed in his final interview extremely violent pornography desensitized him and made him start looking for stronger stimulation. I’m not sure how much you can trust his claims though.
- ggggtez 6y ago
  Don't even suggest it. Billions of people on earth consume pornography. If this theory was right, there should be billions of serial killers. And remember: in the 1970s, his "extreme pornography" would be something a lot more tame than you can pull up during your lunch hour today. Some people are just naturally ill-fit for living in society, and the fix in not policing pornography. The fix is mental health medicine and psychiatry.
- true_religion 6y ago
  Asking mad men to self diagnose the origins of their condition sounds like a bad idea. Even for normative people asking them how their fundamental morals changes would be usually be an unanswerable tar pit.
CuriouslyC 6y ago
I'd rather have an incel staying home and jerking off to porn than going out and trying to rufie a girl at a social gathering (or worse). Men without a sexual outlet become aggressive with or without porn.

mlinsey 6y ago

I find either take here to be plausible, is there any good research? (I can't imagine how to ethically run an experiment, but maybe someone's figured that out)

KittenInABox 6y ago
I googled briefly and stumbled upon this[0] meta-study from 2020, no idea how good the research/journal is. It seems there's no broad consensus, research in this field is more influenced by expectations of researchers than real strong methodology. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/1524838020942754 https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/152483802094275...