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To some extent I think these are things that should be discussed and addressed internally rather than externally so I'll try to be generic. Key things are (1)

To some extent I think these are things that should be discussed and addressed internally rather than externally so I'll try to be generic. Key things are (1) I'm a strong believer that anyone with a job should be easily able to get health insurance and be able to send their children to university (i.e. even if law doesn't enforce it I think a decent minimum wage for all employees is appropriate) (2) people doing work of similar value should get similar compensation in the same organization/on the same team (i.e. location based pay adjustments should be minimal at most) (3) hiring should be diverse w.r.t. background/class/education (i.e. search widely and resist hiring people's friends) I think these are not just moral issues, I think a culture of fairness also benefits morale and gives people more confidence to contribute and feel heard. And I think these kinds of issues become especially important when considering public organizations and non-profits.

spangry 5y ago
FWIW your views are not what I think of when I hear the phrase 'progressive activist'. I tend to think of someone who is concerned almost exclusively with race, gender and sexuality.
- samvher 5y ago
  I think a lot of this boils down to power and bias, and a lot of the discussion around race/gender/sexuality seems overly simplified (they are correlated with certain patterns of power and bias, but not perfectly so). I think the aspect of class is generally underappreciated in public discussions, and in my context the minimum-wage and pay-equity concerns have a pretty significant racial component (when I refer to location adjustments that's primarily about continents, not urban/rural).
- Chazprime 5y ago
  > FWIW your views are not what I think of when I hear the phrase 'progressive activist'. They are... you might just be confusing an actual progressive activist with someone whose sociology degree comes from Twitter.
briefcomment 5y ago
That's pretty wholesome and reasonable, but I don't think that's they type of behavior and views tha people are worried about. I have a feeling the type of progressiveness that people are concerned about is this kind: > "Sixteen percent [of progressives] have tried to have something banned, versus a seven percent national average. >"We asked whether it is “fair or unfair for people who say grossly offensive things to be at risk of losing their livelihoods?” Nationally, 48 percent believe it is “fair,” but this figure rises to 65 percent for social democrat-aligned Labour voters, compared with 39 percent for right-leaning Conservative voters." >"Our polling found that while the most popular word selected, from a list of nine, by Conservatives to describe people “with strongly different political views to my own” was “honest” (39 percent), the most popular among Labour voters was “closed minded” (28 percent)"

spangry 5y ago

FWIW your views are not what I think of when I hear the phrase 'progressive activist'. I tend to think of someone who is concerned almost exclusively with race, gender and sexuality.

samvher 5y ago
I think a lot of this boils down to power and bias, and a lot of the discussion around race/gender/sexuality seems overly simplified (they are correlated with certain patterns of power and bias, but not perfectly so). I think the aspect of class is generally underappreciated in public discussions, and in my context the minimum-wage and pay-equity concerns have a pretty significant racial component (when I refer to location adjustments that's primarily about continents, not urban/rural).
Chazprime 5y ago
> FWIW your views are not what I think of when I hear the phrase 'progressive activist'. They are... you might just be confusing an actual progressive activist with someone whose sociology degree comes from Twitter.

briefcomment 5y ago

That's pretty wholesome and reasonable, but I don't think that's they type of behavior and views tha people are worried about. I have a feeling the type of progressiveness that people are concerned about is this kind: > "Sixteen percent [of progressives] have tried to have something banned, versus a seven percent national average. >"We asked whether it is “fair or unfair for people who say grossly offensive things to be at risk of losing their livelihoods?” Nationally, 48 percent believe it is “fair,” but this figure rises to 65 percent for social democrat-aligned Labour voters, compared with 39 percent for right-leaning Conservative voters." >"Our polling found that while the most popular word selected, from a list of nine, by Conservatives to describe people “with strongly different political views to my own” was “honest” (39 percent), the most popular among Labour voters was “closed minded” (28 percent)"