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> This was the era when in the US Eminem had lines like "nobody listens to techno" That was a diss line about Moby, a "techno" artist who achieved mainstream U

> This was the era when in the US Eminem had lines like "nobody listens to techno" That was a diss line about Moby, a "techno" artist who achieved mainstream US popularity around that time. Eminem wasn't trying to accurately depict the state of electronic music in the US, he was being salty.

cat199 5y ago
but if the line had no basis in reality, he would just sound like an idiot, so ...
- n4r9 5y ago
  He also claimed Dr Dre was locked up in his basement in another lyric, so I'm not sure truthfulness was top of his priority list.
  - tomc1985 5y ago
    Clearly being facetious there By my own memory as a teenager growing up in the rave scene, electronic music was weird and unapproachable to pretty much everyone. Big Beat like The Crystal Method and Prodigy had made some waves, and of course there was Moby, but outside of my raver friends and a brief attempt to get eurodance (like Alice Deejay) on Top 40 radio by the local media conglomerates, "techno" was pretty niche. I mean, in the early 2000s I saw Paul Oakenfold -- twice -- at small clubs, and it was easy to get into the front. I would write requests in big letters on my phone and see if I could get the DJ to play them. (Tiesto wasn't as approachable but that asshole would crank the speakers up well past their distortion point)
renaudg 5y ago
I know, but precisely : referring to Moby as "techno" says everything on how clued up about electronic music the average US listener or artist was at the time :)
- tweetle_beetle 5y ago
  Moby may have ended up with chart success and his tracks on car adverts, but he most did produce plenty of music in the same realm as the artists in the article. Maybe a bit more stompy and with a more varied structure than the clinical X-101 stuff, but it would be unfair to not call it techno. Whether or not Eminem was aware of his early work I couldn't say. - 1994 Horses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ice5Nw6ltfY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ice5Nw6ltfY - 1995 Desperate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHdu9UwXqGc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHdu9UwXqGc - 1992 Drop a Beat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WywzWjZATKA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WywzWjZATKA - 1991 UHF3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21TjeBcA1cI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21TjeBcA1cI - 1991 Voodoo Child (Poor in New York Mix) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WywzWjZATKA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WywzWjZATKA

cat199 5y ago

but if the line had no basis in reality, he would just sound like an idiot, so ...

n4r9 5y ago
He also claimed Dr Dre was locked up in his basement in another lyric, so I'm not sure truthfulness was top of his priority list.
- tomc1985 5y ago
  Clearly being facetious there By my own memory as a teenager growing up in the rave scene, electronic music was weird and unapproachable to pretty much everyone. Big Beat like The Crystal Method and Prodigy had made some waves, and of course there was Moby, but outside of my raver friends and a brief attempt to get eurodance (like Alice Deejay) on Top 40 radio by the local media conglomerates, "techno" was pretty niche. I mean, in the early 2000s I saw Paul Oakenfold -- twice -- at small clubs, and it was easy to get into the front. I would write requests in big letters on my phone and see if I could get the DJ to play them. (Tiesto wasn't as approachable but that asshole would crank the speakers up well past their distortion point)

renaudg 5y ago

I know, but precisely : referring to Moby as "techno" says everything on how clued up about electronic music the average US listener or artist was at the time :)

tweetle_beetle 5y ago
Moby may have ended up with chart success and his tracks on car adverts, but he most did produce plenty of music in the same realm as the artists in the article. Maybe a bit more stompy and with a more varied structure than the clinical X-101 stuff, but it would be unfair to not call it techno. Whether or not Eminem was aware of his early work I couldn't say. - 1994 Horses https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ice5Nw6ltfY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ice5Nw6ltfY - 1995 Desperate https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHdu9UwXqGc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHdu9UwXqGc - 1992 Drop a Beat https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WywzWjZATKA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WywzWjZATKA - 1991 UHF3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21TjeBcA1cI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21TjeBcA1cI - 1991 Voodoo Child (Poor in New York Mix) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WywzWjZATKA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WywzWjZATKA