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>monkey brain That is the issue, we need to kick down the "monkey brain" leaders. We need better education, we need better collaboration. Tribalism is stupid

>monkey brain That is the issue, we need to kick down the "monkey brain" leaders. We need better education, we need better collaboration. Tribalism is stupid and wrong. I lve in a village, as an child I was told a lot of idiotic things like"people from X are Y..." and when I left for university and meet people from X I seen that they are not different then us, and I seen people from my region acting like idiots making me feel shame. Monkey brain is a problem, as a politician, CEO or sociophat you can exploit it on your advantage but as the whole humanity we need to admit is bad, is history and we are not wild beasts anymore, we need to have better expectation for ourselves.

WJW 6y ago
> That is the issue, we need to kick down the "monkey brain" leaders. I think you completely misunderstand the post you are replying to. It's not just the leaders, it is everyone. Even me, even you. There are heaps and heaps of research papers showing that this affects every single human and that the more you think you are immune from it, the bigger its impact on you.
- simion314 6y ago
  I understand that, but humanity changed, like most of us now understand that race or nationality is irrelevant and you can't rank them. This is progress. Most of us understand that we can ignore religious differences and that is idiotic to kill the others because their religion differs in less then 1%, so from my point of view we can't use the excuse that we always were and we always be the same wild beasts, we can push against this, educate people, and shame the racists,nationalists and extremists.
  - WJW 6y ago
    You are already defining new tribes of "us reasonable people" versus the racists, nationalists and extremists though, unintentionally showing how hard it is to ignore the human tendency to divide people into groups.
    - simion314 6y ago
      What is hard, you can split people by race or nationality. What is important is why you would antagonize the groups against each other? The reason I antagonize the nationalists and extremists (I am not from US so I am not talking about reds or blues) is because I see what they are saying and is close minded and evil" we are the best nation,race, religion and the only reason we are not on top is because of the other nations, races and religions, we need to get rid of them" (again I talking in general so it might not apply perfect to your local situtaion and experiences)
- kypro 6y ago
  And in a democracy where every monkey-brain can vote we're all to blame. It's not like we all want to get rid of monkey brain leaders, the problem is that we humans actually quite like leaders who promise to help our in-groups at the expense of our out-groups.
  - simion314 6y ago
    Not all of us vote like that, until recently nationalistic candidates were not that popular, but it depends, if your favorite party was in power for say 8 years and did a terrible job then they have to find a group to blame. blaming the opposition does not work all the time, especially if opposition was weack or changed a lot, so the party and it's fans will blame the others , the neighbors, the immigrants, the international interferance, EU, US, China but most voters find it hard to think that maybe his favorite party is as shitty as the other and did a terrible job because many reasons but probably same incompetence and corruption as always.

WJW 6y ago

> That is the issue, we need to kick down the "monkey brain" leaders. I think you completely misunderstand the post you are replying to. It's not just the leaders, it is everyone. Even me, even you. There are heaps and heaps of research papers showing that this affects every single human and that the more you think you are immune from it, the bigger its impact on you.

simion314 6y ago
I understand that, but humanity changed, like most of us now understand that race or nationality is irrelevant and you can't rank them. This is progress. Most of us understand that we can ignore religious differences and that is idiotic to kill the others because their religion differs in less then 1%, so from my point of view we can't use the excuse that we always were and we always be the same wild beasts, we can push against this, educate people, and shame the racists,nationalists and extremists.
- WJW 6y ago
  You are already defining new tribes of "us reasonable people" versus the racists, nationalists and extremists though, unintentionally showing how hard it is to ignore the human tendency to divide people into groups.
  - simion314 6y ago
    What is hard, you can split people by race or nationality. What is important is why you would antagonize the groups against each other? The reason I antagonize the nationalists and extremists (I am not from US so I am not talking about reds or blues) is because I see what they are saying and is close minded and evil" we are the best nation,race, religion and the only reason we are not on top is because of the other nations, races and religions, we need to get rid of them" (again I talking in general so it might not apply perfect to your local situtaion and experiences)
kypro 6y ago
And in a democracy where every monkey-brain can vote we're all to blame. It's not like we all want to get rid of monkey brain leaders, the problem is that we humans actually quite like leaders who promise to help our in-groups at the expense of our out-groups.
- simion314 6y ago
  Not all of us vote like that, until recently nationalistic candidates were not that popular, but it depends, if your favorite party was in power for say 8 years and did a terrible job then they have to find a group to blame. blaming the opposition does not work all the time, especially if opposition was weack or changed a lot, so the party and it's fans will blame the others , the neighbors, the immigrants, the international interferance, EU, US, China but most voters find it hard to think that maybe his favorite party is as shitty as the other and did a terrible job because many reasons but probably same incompetence and corruption as always.