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They try to be as concise as possible. For example, they completely missed out Front 242, Nitzer Ebb. However they at least mention the genre, EBM. And to be
by _the_inflator 6y ago
They try to be as concise as possible.
For example, they completely missed out Front 242, Nitzer Ebb. However they at least mention the genre, EBM.
And to be honest: what is techno else than Tallas invention in a record store? Frontpage magazine? So many things left out, but who cares? You either witnessed parts of the 90th or not. ;)
I never understood my parents fondness for Woodstock and how an e guitar could be the center of a "sound revolution". Around 30 years later, I really understand them: Dorian Gray, Loveparade, 303. ;)
- TonyTrapp 6y ago> They try to be as concise as possible. Calling it the "definitive history of techno" and then trying to be as concise as possible seems a bit presumptuous to me, though...
- insickness 6y agoThey actually did mention Nitzer Ebb if you do a ctrl-F. Yes, very cool techno-ish, minimal seminal music. Ritchie Hawtin used to spin Murderous into his sets. Recently there was a cool documentary about Wax Trax records called Industrial Accident. Worth seeing. Interviews with Front 242, Ministry, Revolting Cocks, KMFDM, Thrill Kill Kult, Trent Reznor, Frontline Assembly, etc.
- wiz21c 6y agoAny reference about that documentary ? The rev's, FLA, 242, all my not so youth :-)
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- evanelias 6y agoAnother vote for that documentary, it's absolutely a joy. Not streaming for free anywhere, but worth the cost: http://www.waxtraxfilms.com/ http://www.waxtraxfilms.com/
- kristopolous 6y agoI think my main contention can be illustrated by trying to discover where Disco comes from. I was looking for this kind of shoestring style story for years. Then I gave up trying to construct it. The reality is it's a bunch of things smashed together like pressing all the buttons at the soda fountain at once. That's what happened. That's where techno came from as well. Sometimes the narratives are super clean, like rappers delight for rap (there's pre rappers delight style rap records, but under like a dozen or so) or the amen break and dnb or the configuration of the swing drum kit for swing music or house music proper being "the stuff knuckles plays" in Chicago. But a few styles are inherently messy with no clean lines. Rock, Disco and Techno are three Rock is especially super messy, here's Meade Lux Lewis in 1927 for instance, https://youtu.be/tDuLezFRMNU https://youtu.be/tDuLezFRMNU swap the piano with a guitar and you have 50s rock
- zwp 6y agoThanks for your great contributions in this thread. Can you please help me understand "rock is super messy"? The traditional narrative is "rock was mostly derived from blues (+ some other influences)" but the counter(?)example you provided is a classic 12 bar blues. Do you have some messier examples? Or did I miss your point?
- mmmmmk 6y agoThe book, The Seventh Stream, by Phil Ennis is a good resource to understand the origins of rock. It is a lot more complicated than just the blues.
- evanelias 6y ago> I think my main contention can be illustrated by trying to discover where Disco comes from. Isn't the concise answer Philadelphia? :) Partially joking, I know this is an oversimplification. In any case, this interview with Earl Young from The Trammps, discussing the origin of four-on-the-floor, is pure gold: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsf51_a1ceI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsf51_a1ceI
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