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I guess you think that it's okay for the community to be bad in some way but it's not okay for researchers because science ethics should be higher than communit
by gadf 5y ago
I guess you think that it's okay for the community to be bad in some way but it's not okay for researchers because science ethics should be higher than community ethics.
It's an interesting perspective I guess it comes from the idea that communities are sort of unstructured and it's not as important that they have ethical standards as high as science because science should be more objective and people need to be able to rely on it and trust it. I guess someone could adopt this perspective that seems to excuse community bad behavior while condemning researchers behavior because they just want to get out of any accountability in this particular case. but I'm assuming that you genuinely feel like this and have had this view from before this particular incident.
I simply disagree with this view, I think everyone should behave well or at least held the same standards.
It also seems that you're (or you were when you commented) very angry and hurt by the actions of the researchers and so I guess that you're probably involved in the Linux kind of in a way and felt betrayed by this action or I had some similar experience with scientific people in the past. I wonder how much the opposite of the community is a result that they were successfully deceived and if they had caught these patches and prevented them from being merged and their reaction may be entirely different even if the research is behavior was the same. But I suspect that would still be outrage because probably a lot of people share your view to some extent but the researchers behaviors should be held to a high standard than their own.
Just seems to me that you're not really open to hearing my point of view on this and that's got nothing to do with the merits of my view it's just where you're at. But because it seems like you're not able to hear my view on this or engage with that I just didn't really feel there was a point to continue the discussion. Have a good one