> how much is due to Jony Ive's departure Apple is clearly selling to the masses here. Most people don't know or care who Jony Ive is, and the MacBook Pros an

> how much is due to Jony Ive's departure Apple is clearly selling to the masses here. Most people don't know or care who Jony Ive is, and the MacBook Pros and iPads don't look meaningfully different in any way. I'm shocked anyone thinks Ive's departure is relevant at this scale.