Yeah I agree with you. Clearly something was wrong with UML. I didn't mean something was lost with the abandonment of UML in particular. Just that nothing has c

Yeah I agree with you. Clearly something was wrong with UML. I didn't mean something was lost with the abandonment of UML in particular. Just that nothing has come up to replace it and people just write the same code over and over again, poorly. And that there is no real "software engineering" discipline in the same way that civil engineering or electrical engineering exist. I guess it's still just too early in the history of software to really break it down into a discipline.