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> Did you hear about this last year? From who? Did you find it credible? Why or why not? Your questions above propose the idea of bias in the information deli

by danans 6y ago

> Did you hear about this last year? From who? Did you find it credible? Why or why not? Your questions above propose the idea of bias in the information delivery and reception, which inherently maps to political partisanship. What other sort of bias could your questions possibly evoke? Cuomo was exposed and has been condemned largely by officials within his own party, and also broadly by the media, whether left, right, or center.

commandlinefan 6y ago
I think what OP is getting at is that it's suspicious that this became a "mainstream" news story this year when it was known last year.
- throwaway0a5e 6y ago
  Nobody cared what the body count was until the body count turned into a house seat. The really sick thing as that this sudden influx of give-a-shits is sending the message that "the party will back you if you kill people so long as you don't lose a house seat in the process" which is not a great message to be sending.
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  - danans 6y ago
    > Nobody cared what the body count was until the body count turned into a house seat. How did the body count turn into a house seat exactly? There are dozens of ways that New York's population count could have gone 89 in either direction and changed the house seat allocation. At those small margins, it's basically a coin toss.
    - throwaway0a5e 6y ago
      True, but had a large fraction of those needless deaths not happened that would have easily given them the boost they needed to keep the seat.
      - danans 6y ago
        The nursing home deaths are no more or less related to the house seat than any other small scale demographic event that happened last year. The deaths are arguably far less consequential than the effect of people leaving the state to move away from the early impact of the pandemic and into remote work scenarios.
  - todd8 6y ago
    The 2020 Census, not today’s post Covid population count is used for congressional apportionment. The current population of NY has nothing to do with it.
- throwaway894345 6y ago
  Agreed. I’m a liberal and a democrat but the Dems and the media are not brave whistleblowers for suppressing the truth until the very last politically tenable moment.
macinjosh 6y ago
> Cuomo was exposed and has been condemned largely by officials within his own party, and also broadly by the media, whether left, right, or center. Correct, but for the nursing home residents and their families that too little too late. I first read about this last summer as the nursing home rules began to take effect. At the time the party and media were too busy holding Cuomo up as an anti-Trumpian figure. They gave him an Emmy and cute nicknames while this happened. It is all just a little too much for me.

by danans 6y ago

commandlinefan 6y ago

I think what OP is getting at is that it's suspicious that this became a "mainstream" news story this year when it was known last year.

throwaway0a5e 6y ago
Nobody cared what the body count was until the body count turned into a house seat. The really sick thing as that this sudden influx of give-a-shits is sending the message that "the party will back you if you kill people so long as you don't lose a house seat in the process" which is not a great message to be sending.
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- danans 6y ago
  > Nobody cared what the body count was until the body count turned into a house seat. How did the body count turn into a house seat exactly? There are dozens of ways that New York's population count could have gone 89 in either direction and changed the house seat allocation. At those small margins, it's basically a coin toss.
  - throwaway0a5e 6y ago
    True, but had a large fraction of those needless deaths not happened that would have easily given them the boost they needed to keep the seat.
    - danans 6y ago
      The nursing home deaths are no more or less related to the house seat than any other small scale demographic event that happened last year. The deaths are arguably far less consequential than the effect of people leaving the state to move away from the early impact of the pandemic and into remote work scenarios.
- todd8 6y ago
  The 2020 Census, not today’s post Covid population count is used for congressional apportionment. The current population of NY has nothing to do with it.
throwaway894345 6y ago
Agreed. I’m a liberal and a democrat but the Dems and the media are not brave whistleblowers for suppressing the truth until the very last politically tenable moment.

macinjosh 6y ago

> Cuomo was exposed and has been condemned largely by officials within his own party, and also broadly by the media, whether left, right, or center. Correct, but for the nursing home residents and their families that too little too late. I first read about this last summer as the nursing home rules began to take effect. At the time the party and media were too busy holding Cuomo up as an anti-Trumpian figure. They gave him an Emmy and cute nicknames while this happened. It is all just a little too much for me.