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They gave him a fucking Emmy in November: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/11/21/937445923/andrew-cuomo-to-receive-international-emmy

They gave him a fucking Emmy in November: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/11/21/937445923/andrew-cuomo-to-receive-international-emmy-for-masterful-covid-19-briefings https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/1... And he published a fucking book in October: https://www.amazon.com/American-Crisis-Leadership-COVID-19-Pandemic/dp/0593239261 https://www.amazon.com/American-Crisis-Leadership-COVID-19-P... Broken doesn't even begin to describe it....

comodore_ 5y ago
yes, unreal. Also all this took place when he received a multi million dollar advance for his book "American Crisis: Leadership Lessons from the COVID-19 Pandemic", and remember this crazy thing https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/arts/design/cuomo-covid-poster-new-york.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/arts/design/cuomo-covid-p... how is any of this real?!?!
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- lotsofpulp 5y ago
  I assume anyone left watching 24 hour news channels is not very adept at critical thinking.
  - hpcjoe 5y ago
    Yeah ... I hear otherwise intelligent friends (folks with PhDs, MDs, etc.) effectively parroting crap you would hear on their favorite news channel. You can tell what they watch by listening to what they say. I think the "smarter" one is, the more gullible they are. As someone with a PhD, I try very hard not to be gullible ... I can't say I always succeed. But I am highly skeptical of everything I hear/read. That skepticism helps.
    - StandardFuture 5y ago
      Being educated != being smart. Intelligence is a biological phenotype of neurological potential. It's distribution is set in stone across humanity. Being lucky and born into a family that can afford your higher education that will grant you a title has nothing to do with biological intelligence. In other words, a lot of very stupid people with PhDs and MDs can parrot mass media like the "low IQ" individuals that they are.
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      - bradlys 5y ago
        I don’t know if I’d go that far with the set in stone nature. I’d just say that even if someone is educated well in one field - it doesn’t mean that they’re generally well educated or that they have good critical thinking skills outside of their field. I’m surrounded by PhDs - they’re all great at their field, terrible at everything else. Min/Maxed their stats very hard there.
        StandardFuture 5y ago
        >I don’t know if I’d go that far with the set in stone nature. It's a stone that will only be moved by future technology. Perhaps a mastery of biology/neurology or more. Until then, it is essentially unchangeable.
    - nickalaso 5y ago
      I believe it has something to do with someones level of "institutionalization", or perhaps, how comfortable they are with institutions and authorities themselves. A PhD holder is a PhD holder, at least in part, because they trusted that the many 1000's of hours of study and hard work they put into to receive a certificate from an institution was worth it. And this is because they, at some level, trust the institution itself. Presumably this trust can also transfer to other "authorities", like US cable new media companies.
hpcjoe 5y ago
I don't see anyone talking about taking that emmy back. Or canceling him. He has like 7 credible assault victims accusing him. And the "media" protects him. Riddle me that. His ass should have been out on the sidewalk a long time ago. The "media" is complicit.
- jmcqk6 5y ago
  >I don't see anyone talking about taking that emmy back. Or canceling him. Look harder then. They're not difficult to find. When you treat "media" as a monolithic, moving with unified purpose, you're going to make mistakes just like this one. "media" is diverse enough that you kind people you can disagree with when you look. So it's no doubt true that there is media out there that is defending Cuomo. But that doesn't mean there is some vast conspiracy, or even wide spread collusion, as you seem to be implying.
  - hpcjoe 5y ago
    > But that doesn't mean there is some vast conspiracy, or even wide spread collusion, as you seem to be implying. Not even close to what I was saying. And yes, the "media" as in the NBC variants, CNN, CBS, ABC, NPR, etc. seem to all mimic/amplify each others reporting. Doesn't need to be a conspiracy, and I don't think it is. It is, however, a uniform political and cultural narrative, that actively defends itself from information that runs counter to it. Whether or not there is coordination is irrelevant. That this collection of "media" somehow manages to bury important (real) information, in favor of what they would like to say, is highly problematic for what one might call, actual news. So no ... to your point, I do not believe the strawman you constructed and then swatted comes anywhere close to what I was specifically talking about. However, denial of the mutual reinforcement and exclusion of information that runs counter to their collective narrative ... that's a deep and fundamental failure of critical thinking.
    - RhysU 5y ago
      > And yes, the "media" as in the NBC variants, CNN, CBS, ABC, NPR, etc. seem to all mimic/amplify each others reporting. TIL by watching multiple DVR-ed news shows from the same night while visiting family... It is eerie the extent to which the nightly national news stories are the nearly same across the various old networks. With a whole country of stories to pick from the network news is, anecdotally, 80%+ the same many nights. Not only the topics but also the story structure, the chosen sequence of video clips, etc.
oldgradstudent 5y ago
What's wrong with that? Emmys are usually given for works of fiction.

comodore_ 5y ago

yes, unreal. Also all this took place when he received a multi million dollar advance for his book "American Crisis: Leadership Lessons from the COVID-19 Pandemic", and remember this crazy thing https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/arts/design/cuomo-covid-poster-new-york.html https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/14/arts/design/cuomo-covid-p... how is any of this real?!?!

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lotsofpulp 5y ago
I assume anyone left watching 24 hour news channels is not very adept at critical thinking.
- hpcjoe 5y ago
  Yeah ... I hear otherwise intelligent friends (folks with PhDs, MDs, etc.) effectively parroting crap you would hear on their favorite news channel. You can tell what they watch by listening to what they say. I think the "smarter" one is, the more gullible they are. As someone with a PhD, I try very hard not to be gullible ... I can't say I always succeed. But I am highly skeptical of everything I hear/read. That skepticism helps.
  - StandardFuture 5y ago
    Being educated != being smart. Intelligence is a biological phenotype of neurological potential. It's distribution is set in stone across humanity. Being lucky and born into a family that can afford your higher education that will grant you a title has nothing to do with biological intelligence. In other words, a lot of very stupid people with PhDs and MDs can parrot mass media like the "low IQ" individuals that they are.
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    - bradlys 5y ago
      I don’t know if I’d go that far with the set in stone nature. I’d just say that even if someone is educated well in one field - it doesn’t mean that they’re generally well educated or that they have good critical thinking skills outside of their field. I’m surrounded by PhDs - they’re all great at their field, terrible at everything else. Min/Maxed their stats very hard there.
      - StandardFuture 5y ago
        >I don’t know if I’d go that far with the set in stone nature. It's a stone that will only be moved by future technology. Perhaps a mastery of biology/neurology or more. Until then, it is essentially unchangeable.
  - nickalaso 5y ago
    I believe it has something to do with someones level of "institutionalization", or perhaps, how comfortable they are with institutions and authorities themselves. A PhD holder is a PhD holder, at least in part, because they trusted that the many 1000's of hours of study and hard work they put into to receive a certificate from an institution was worth it. And this is because they, at some level, trust the institution itself. Presumably this trust can also transfer to other "authorities", like US cable new media companies.

hpcjoe 5y ago

I don't see anyone talking about taking that emmy back. Or canceling him. He has like 7 credible assault victims accusing him. And the "media" protects him. Riddle me that. His ass should have been out on the sidewalk a long time ago. The "media" is complicit.

jmcqk6 5y ago
>I don't see anyone talking about taking that emmy back. Or canceling him. Look harder then. They're not difficult to find. When you treat "media" as a monolithic, moving with unified purpose, you're going to make mistakes just like this one. "media" is diverse enough that you kind people you can disagree with when you look. So it's no doubt true that there is media out there that is defending Cuomo. But that doesn't mean there is some vast conspiracy, or even wide spread collusion, as you seem to be implying.
- hpcjoe 5y ago
  > But that doesn't mean there is some vast conspiracy, or even wide spread collusion, as you seem to be implying. Not even close to what I was saying. And yes, the "media" as in the NBC variants, CNN, CBS, ABC, NPR, etc. seem to all mimic/amplify each others reporting. Doesn't need to be a conspiracy, and I don't think it is. It is, however, a uniform political and cultural narrative, that actively defends itself from information that runs counter to it. Whether or not there is coordination is irrelevant. That this collection of "media" somehow manages to bury important (real) information, in favor of what they would like to say, is highly problematic for what one might call, actual news. So no ... to your point, I do not believe the strawman you constructed and then swatted comes anywhere close to what I was specifically talking about. However, denial of the mutual reinforcement and exclusion of information that runs counter to their collective narrative ... that's a deep and fundamental failure of critical thinking.
  - RhysU 5y ago
    > And yes, the "media" as in the NBC variants, CNN, CBS, ABC, NPR, etc. seem to all mimic/amplify each others reporting. TIL by watching multiple DVR-ed news shows from the same night while visiting family... It is eerie the extent to which the nightly national news stories are the nearly same across the various old networks. With a whole country of stories to pick from the network news is, anecdotally, 80%+ the same many nights. Not only the topics but also the story structure, the chosen sequence of video clips, etc.

oldgradstudent 5y ago

What's wrong with that? Emmys are usually given for works of fiction.