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The media control and censorship here in India is definitely getting our of hand! Setting aside the absolute criminal mismanagement and planning of the Covid s

by asenna 5y ago

The media control and censorship here in India is definitely getting our of hand! Setting aside the absolute criminal mismanagement and planning of the Covid situation in the past few months, the fact that the people in power are still applying their brains and might into figuring out how to manipulate the narrative and how to squash dissent in this moment when the country is going through an unimaginable disaster. Just today, a guy was slapped with some serious charges (which could lead to Jail time) because he tweeted that he needed Oxygen for his Grandfather. [1][2] I know this is sounding alarmist but I've seen the change in the past 8 years and the country is heading in the direction of China at breakneck speed right now (not in the good way). [1] https://thewire.in/government/amethi-up-police-arfa-khanum-sherwani-oxygen-smriti-irani https://thewire.in/government/amethi-up-police-arfa-khanum-s... [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/mzx3zb/youth_sought_oxygen_for_grandfather_via_tweet_up/ https://www.reddit.com/r/india/comments/mzx3zb/youth_sought_...

yinyang_in 5y ago
First the wire is known to be very alt-left but even then the patient didn't had any requirement for oxygen, his grandfather died of heart-attack. Not sure which part of article or twitter thread says a normal guy got screwed up ?
- iliekcomputers 5y ago
  He has charges against him for trying to find oxygen for his sick grandfather. What part of that does not involve the guy getting screwed? Also, instead of criticizing the source, criticize the content.
- ceejayoz 5y ago
  https://www.cedars-sinai.org/health-library/diseases-and-conditions/h/heart-attack-myocardial-infarction.html https://www.cedars-sinai.org/health-library/diseases-and-con... > Often a person who is having a heart attack is given oxygen, which also helps heart tissue damage to be less. COVID isn't the only disease that requires oxygen.
- ben_w 5y ago
  So far as I can see, “alt left” is a recent neologism to denigrate anyone who opposed Trump. What do you mean when you describe them thusly?
- asenna 5y ago
  Here's the tweet: https://twitter.com/khanumarfa/status/1386757457393770496?s=20 https://twitter.com/khanumarfa/status/1386757457393770496?s=... It's in the article as well. The text message was tweeted out. I understand the wire can be considered left-leaning but does that automatically make everything they report on as false? You can ignore their "alt-left" opinion but screenshots of texts and tweets are actual facts that happened.
  - Bang2Bay 5y ago
    the correct tweet is the one where the local elected leader was targeted[1]. the leader made police run around to help the person. cops found foul play.[2] What am I missing? [1]https://twitter.com/elsamariedsilva/status/1386760030481895427?s=20 https://twitter.com/elsamariedsilva/status/13867600304818954... [2] https://twitter.com/amethipolice/status/1386982878328758273?s=20 https://twitter.com/amethipolice/status/1386982878328758273?...
    - xxxtentachyon 5y ago
      I’m not sure why we should be inclined to trust the police in an environment where the government is clearly making an effort to play down the seriousness of the crisis and their hand in it. It’s also a bit hard to believe that someone would both be trolling hard enough to lie about their grandfather needing oxygen during an oxygen shortage AND give enough information for the authorities to show up and realize he was trolling.
twoclicksnorth 5y ago
Well a little more context will do. The man tweeted he needed oxygen to a famous celebrity. A union minister herself called him twice to help. As he was not answering she asked district magistrate to help. They found that man's grandfather is not suffering from covid and not admitted to any hospital and under private care. So the man just fired a tweet thus police has questioned him and let him go.
petre 5y ago
Alarming but otherwise China and to a lesser extent Pakistan take control of the narrative to their own advantage. At least the Modi government doesn't lock people in reeducation camps. India should remain a secular state though.
elliekelly 5y ago
I don’t understand what Modi is doing. It seems like many huge companies based in the west will be looking to leave China (as much as possible) in the next 5ish years and India is a democracy perfectly situated to grab all of that economic productivity. They have the education, the infrastructure, and the population. All they have to do is be a bit less dictator-y than China and a bit more respectful of human rights. That should be a pretty low bar. But for some reason when Modi should be positioning India as “we’re not like China” he instead seems intent on repeatedly pointing out the similarities on the international stage. It just seems really short-sighted to me.
- asenna 5y ago
  Absolutely agree with this. In fact even if the minimum they do is walk back to how the country was before Modi, that would be a huge step forward. Not talking about politics here but just to a time when comedians and journalists didn't have to fear harassment for doing their jobs. Also a fun fact - Modi has not done a single open, unscripted press conference in his entire 7 years of being in power! Can you actually believe that. He hasn't taken a single question on camera that was not pre-determined. Most likely because of the lesson he learned after the one interview he did with a reputed Journalist a while back before coming to power - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAGAYL8dtic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAGAYL8dtic The effort that he puts into forming his public-image is actually impressive at some level.
  - Bang2Bay 5y ago
    probably the likes of arfa khanum are not of interest to modi.
  - ramphastidae 5y ago
    No press conferences, massive rallies during a pandemic, and demonizing foreign powers for not solving problems they are responsive for solving? Sounds familiar ...
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Bang2Bay 5y ago
The real reason is government tried to help. Cabinet minister reached out to help[1] . Sent cops to help . cops ran around calling, tracking and finally found the truth. Since there was no real need for oxygen in this case, cops suspect he tweeted to sensationalise.[2] if there was a need for oxygen then we could expect there would have been no arrest. [1] https://twitter.com/smritiirani/status/1386763271835774980?s=20 https://twitter.com/smritiirani/status/1386763271835774980?s... [2] https://twitter.com/indiantweeter/status/1387293380212715524?s=20 https://twitter.com/indiantweeter/status/1387293380212715524...
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by asenna 5y ago

yinyang_in 5y ago

First the wire is known to be very alt-left but even then the patient didn't had any requirement for oxygen, his grandfather died of heart-attack. Not sure which part of article or twitter thread says a normal guy got screwed up ?

iliekcomputers 5y ago
He has charges against him for trying to find oxygen for his sick grandfather. What part of that does not involve the guy getting screwed? Also, instead of criticizing the source, criticize the content.
ceejayoz 5y ago
https://www.cedars-sinai.org/health-library/diseases-and-conditions/h/heart-attack-myocardial-infarction.html https://www.cedars-sinai.org/health-library/diseases-and-con... > Often a person who is having a heart attack is given oxygen, which also helps heart tissue damage to be less. COVID isn't the only disease that requires oxygen.
ben_w 5y ago
So far as I can see, “alt left” is a recent neologism to denigrate anyone who opposed Trump. What do you mean when you describe them thusly?
asenna 5y ago
Here's the tweet: https://twitter.com/khanumarfa/status/1386757457393770496?s=20 https://twitter.com/khanumarfa/status/1386757457393770496?s=... It's in the article as well. The text message was tweeted out. I understand the wire can be considered left-leaning but does that automatically make everything they report on as false? You can ignore their "alt-left" opinion but screenshots of texts and tweets are actual facts that happened.
- Bang2Bay 5y ago
  the correct tweet is the one where the local elected leader was targeted[1]. the leader made police run around to help the person. cops found foul play.[2] What am I missing? [1]https://twitter.com/elsamariedsilva/status/1386760030481895427?s=20 https://twitter.com/elsamariedsilva/status/13867600304818954... [2] https://twitter.com/amethipolice/status/1386982878328758273?s=20 https://twitter.com/amethipolice/status/1386982878328758273?...
  - xxxtentachyon 5y ago
    I’m not sure why we should be inclined to trust the police in an environment where the government is clearly making an effort to play down the seriousness of the crisis and their hand in it. It’s also a bit hard to believe that someone would both be trolling hard enough to lie about their grandfather needing oxygen during an oxygen shortage AND give enough information for the authorities to show up and realize he was trolling.

twoclicksnorth 5y ago

Well a little more context will do. The man tweeted he needed oxygen to a famous celebrity. A union minister herself called him twice to help. As he was not answering she asked district magistrate to help. They found that man's grandfather is not suffering from covid and not admitted to any hospital and under private care. So the man just fired a tweet thus police has questioned him and let him go.

petre 5y ago

Alarming but otherwise China and to a lesser extent Pakistan take control of the narrative to their own advantage. At least the Modi government doesn't lock people in reeducation camps. India should remain a secular state though.

elliekelly 5y ago

I don’t understand what Modi is doing. It seems like many huge companies based in the west will be looking to leave China (as much as possible) in the next 5ish years and India is a democracy perfectly situated to grab all of that economic productivity. They have the education, the infrastructure, and the population. All they have to do is be a bit less dictator-y than China and a bit more respectful of human rights. That should be a pretty low bar. But for some reason when Modi should be positioning India as “we’re not like China” he instead seems intent on repeatedly pointing out the similarities on the international stage. It just seems really short-sighted to me.

asenna 5y ago
Absolutely agree with this. In fact even if the minimum they do is walk back to how the country was before Modi, that would be a huge step forward. Not talking about politics here but just to a time when comedians and journalists didn't have to fear harassment for doing their jobs. Also a fun fact - Modi has not done a single open, unscripted press conference in his entire 7 years of being in power! Can you actually believe that. He hasn't taken a single question on camera that was not pre-determined. Most likely because of the lesson he learned after the one interview he did with a reputed Journalist a while back before coming to power - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAGAYL8dtic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAGAYL8dtic The effort that he puts into forming his public-image is actually impressive at some level.
- Bang2Bay 5y ago
  probably the likes of arfa khanum are not of interest to modi.
- ramphastidae 5y ago
  No press conferences, massive rallies during a pandemic, and demonizing foreign powers for not solving problems they are responsive for solving? Sounds familiar ...
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Bang2Bay 5y ago

The real reason is government tried to help. Cabinet minister reached out to help[1] . Sent cops to help . cops ran around calling, tracking and finally found the truth. Since there was no real need for oxygen in this case, cops suspect he tweeted to sensationalise.[2] if there was a need for oxygen then we could expect there would have been no arrest. [1] https://twitter.com/smritiirani/status/1386763271835774980?s=20 https://twitter.com/smritiirani/status/1386763271835774980?s... [2] https://twitter.com/indiantweeter/status/1387293380212715524?s=20 https://twitter.com/indiantweeter/status/1387293380212715524...

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