4 ms·

Do you ever question why the sidewalk was unused? Without curb cuts, any potential sidewalk user with wheels is impaired with a detour through the street or a c

Do you ever question why the sidewalk was unused? Without curb cuts, any potential sidewalk user with wheels is impaired with a detour through the street or a cumbersome stop and lift process. Does a parent with their kids in a stroller get discouraged by this? How about those with Rollerblades, non-electric scooters, or any kind of dolly? Curb cuts for cars are often a notable detour for other road users, many have a 1/2 inch lip (unlike sidewalk curb cuts).

oh_sigh 5y ago
You're telling me all the reasons that curb cuts may be a good idea, but not why they are actually a good idea in my neighborhood(not that I blame you since you don't know where I live). Anyways - that is really my point. ADA has good general ideas, but it can be too generalized to be usefully applied to many neighborhoods. > Do you ever question why the sidewalk was unused? No, because it is clear. It is unused because the only reason anyone would walk down it is if they lived in the neighborhood. So people do use it, but the number of unique users is approximately how many people live in the 10 houses on the street. > Without curb cuts There are a ton of curb cuts. Literally every 70' is a curb cut for the entire length of the street before they did their work. Now there are three more curb cuts. > Does a parent with their kids in a stroller get discouraged by this? I'm a parent with a stroller and it has never been a problem. Hasn't been a problem for my wife either who is significantly weaker than me and has a bad back. > How about those with Rollerblades, non-electric scooters, or any kind of dolly? These are also me, and no, no problem. Also me on a skateboard without an issue. And it's not because I'm great at skateboarding, since I literally just started 2 months ago. > Curb cuts for cars are often a notable detour for other road users There's zero lip on any of the 12 curb cuts on the street. I know this because I've ridden my skateboard over them a bunch of times and have never fallen.
- simfree 5y ago
  From what you describe you live on a dead end road or cul-de-sac that needs more pathways. This poor connectivity is part of why states and localities have banned cul-de-sacs and started enforcing road end connection ordinances. Here in Seattle there are many dead end roads that have a staircase down to the next road (usually a 2 story drop) to tie our hilly city's sidewalks together.

oh_sigh 5y ago

You're telling me all the reasons that curb cuts may be a good idea, but not why they are actually a good idea in my neighborhood(not that I blame you since you don't know where I live). Anyways - that is really my point. ADA has good general ideas, but it can be too generalized to be usefully applied to many neighborhoods. > Do you ever question why the sidewalk was unused? No, because it is clear. It is unused because the only reason anyone would walk down it is if they lived in the neighborhood. So people do use it, but the number of unique users is approximately how many people live in the 10 houses on the street. > Without curb cuts There are a ton of curb cuts. Literally every 70' is a curb cut for the entire length of the street before they did their work. Now there are three more curb cuts. > Does a parent with their kids in a stroller get discouraged by this? I'm a parent with a stroller and it has never been a problem. Hasn't been a problem for my wife either who is significantly weaker than me and has a bad back. > How about those with Rollerblades, non-electric scooters, or any kind of dolly? These are also me, and no, no problem. Also me on a skateboard without an issue. And it's not because I'm great at skateboarding, since I literally just started 2 months ago. > Curb cuts for cars are often a notable detour for other road users There's zero lip on any of the 12 curb cuts on the street. I know this because I've ridden my skateboard over them a bunch of times and have never fallen.

simfree 5y ago
From what you describe you live on a dead end road or cul-de-sac that needs more pathways. This poor connectivity is part of why states and localities have banned cul-de-sacs and started enforcing road end connection ordinances. Here in Seattle there are many dead end roads that have a staircase down to the next road (usually a 2 story drop) to tie our hilly city's sidewalks together.