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> Let's not pretend the FSB and MSS don't also lie constantly How do you go from reading "the CIA is lying" to "the FSB is telling the truth"? Do you understan

> Let's not pretend the FSB and MSS don't also lie constantly How do you go from reading "the CIA is lying" to "the FSB is telling the truth"? Do you understand the difference between those statements? Reminds me of a stand up bit, "are you a Jew or an antisemite?"

neartheplain 6y ago
>How do you go from reading "the CIA is lying" to "the FSB is telling the truth"? The link is a Kaspersky press release, so there’s potential for an FSB connection: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-11/kaspersky-lab-has-been-working-with-russian-intelligence https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-07-11/kaspersky...
- encryptluks2 6y ago
  Yet it wasn't until relatively recently that they stopped selling Kaspersky at major retailers. Even if they have an FSB connection they are basically saying, well we now know that company we let get loose on millions of consumer desktops and enterprise/government systems in the US is connected to Russian intelligence. Oops!
- freeflight 6y ago
  Using that same logic most statements out of the US corporate InfoSec establishment should be similarly scrutinized. A whole lot of these outfits are started by former NSA employees, and they love having people that previously worked in US national security on their rooster for the marketing value. Yet whenever one of these outfits accuses China/Russia/Iran of being responsible for the latest "cyber incident"/"misinformation campaign" these accusations are widely regurgitated without any doubt like some kind of definitive factual truth.
  - shkkmo 6y ago
    If the leader of the infosec company is ex-CIA... that doesn't seem unreasonable.