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AI Dungeon is subscription driven, not advertiser driven, so it's unlikely they're particularly sensitive to offensive content. It seems like they're filtering

AI Dungeon is subscription driven, not advertiser driven, so it's unlikely they're particularly sensitive to offensive content. It seems like they're filtering out sexually explicit depictions of children to minimize legal risk, which doesn't apply to offensive output in general.

gambiting 5y ago
That's fine, but AI Dungeon is purely text based, right? I might be wrong so please correct me, but if you were to write say.....a book with very explicit minor sexual content.....that's not illegal. Images are illegal. In some places drawings are too. But text isn't. I mean, surely? We cannot be at a point as humanity where text is illegal. Right?
- jfk13 5y ago
  Why can't text be illegal? There's plenty of precedent for text being censored, at various times and in various places. It just depends what laws any given society chooses to have.
  - nonbirithm 5y ago
    As opposed to illegal images, generating text does not physically harm someone. But it's known that some models will provide actual addresses of living people if a specific enough prompt is given. What if fragments of text from someone's sensitive blog posts start showing up between the lines of a dungeon crawl? I have to wonder about the legal implications of an AttnGAN or word-to-image type model trained on nothing but illegal pornography. Or one where the ratio of legal to illegal content the model was trained on is unknown and impossible to determine. There are some jurisdictions that consider synthetic images or text to be a victimless crime. At what point does the line become crossed and the images start becoming recognizable and realistic enough to be illegal at first glance under any usual circumstance, but are actually generated from nothing? How would people be able to prove the origin and veracity of such images for the purpose of submitting evidence of a crime?
- Ggshjtcnjfxhg 5y ago
  > if you were to write say.....a book with very explicit minor sexual content.....that's not illegal Not in the US, but in Canada and many European countries, I believe it's illegal. > We cannot be at a point as humanity where text is illegal. Right? Even in the US, much text is illegal in certain contexts. Think false advertising, written plausible threats, etc.
  - gambiting 5y ago
    Well the difference is that the text is not illegal in those contexts. False advertising is. Fraud is. Threatening people is. But just simply having a leaflet with false advert printed on it isn't. It's not a crime to have it. With CP just possession is illegal, but I really don't believe that a written book would be illegal in itself? I can't find any examples of someone being sentenced for writing a book, outside of regimes where the book was critiquing the party etc.....

gambiting 5y ago

That's fine, but AI Dungeon is purely text based, right? I might be wrong so please correct me, but if you were to write say.....a book with very explicit minor sexual content.....that's not illegal. Images are illegal. In some places drawings are too. But text isn't. I mean, surely? We cannot be at a point as humanity where text is illegal. Right?

jfk13 5y ago
Why can't text be illegal? There's plenty of precedent for text being censored, at various times and in various places. It just depends what laws any given society chooses to have.
- nonbirithm 5y ago
  As opposed to illegal images, generating text does not physically harm someone. But it's known that some models will provide actual addresses of living people if a specific enough prompt is given. What if fragments of text from someone's sensitive blog posts start showing up between the lines of a dungeon crawl? I have to wonder about the legal implications of an AttnGAN or word-to-image type model trained on nothing but illegal pornography. Or one where the ratio of legal to illegal content the model was trained on is unknown and impossible to determine. There are some jurisdictions that consider synthetic images or text to be a victimless crime. At what point does the line become crossed and the images start becoming recognizable and realistic enough to be illegal at first glance under any usual circumstance, but are actually generated from nothing? How would people be able to prove the origin and veracity of such images for the purpose of submitting evidence of a crime?
Ggshjtcnjfxhg 5y ago
> if you were to write say.....a book with very explicit minor sexual content.....that's not illegal Not in the US, but in Canada and many European countries, I believe it's illegal. > We cannot be at a point as humanity where text is illegal. Right? Even in the US, much text is illegal in certain contexts. Think false advertising, written plausible threats, etc.
- gambiting 5y ago
  Well the difference is that the text is not illegal in those contexts. False advertising is. Fraud is. Threatening people is. But just simply having a leaflet with false advert printed on it isn't. It's not a crime to have it. With CP just possession is illegal, but I really don't believe that a written book would be illegal in itself? I can't find any examples of someone being sentenced for writing a book, outside of regimes where the book was critiquing the party etc.....