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nyc has sued verizon multiple (?) times for failing to roll out fiber into the city and just keeping the money. Each time verizon does some update, or rolls ou

by ep103 5y ago

nyc has sued verizon multiple (?) times for failing to roll out fiber into the city and just keeping the money. Each time verizon does some update, or rolls out a little bit more, and the story repeats. Telecom is a utility, end of story.

toss1 5y ago
NYC needs to get serious Tell Verizon and the others that if they fail to fulfill their contract, the will get their license pulled, or, at the very least, they will operate their own local municipal broadband. Of course the incentives are probably for each individual politician such that with enough graft, campaign donations, etc., that they just stick with the status quo, but I'm not familiar with the local situation. [edit: typo "fulled" => "pulled"]
- thomastjeffery 5y ago
  It sounds like that is what they have been doing. What they need to do now is tell Verizon that they failed to fulfill their contract, pull their license, and operate their own municipal broadband.
  - lotsofpulp 5y ago
    New York City government has been all talk and no walk because they also do not want to pony up the sufficient funds to make it happen.
  - toss1 5y ago
    Yup. Although, while I'm no longer familiar with the local situation, it seems that the action has more been to sue Verizon and pocket the proceeds from the lawsuits into the general fund, while keeping their actual regulatory big gun in the holster. Managing lawsuits and paying fines is apparently still cheaper for Verizon than actually installing the fiber. What I want to know is WHY no regulator or judge has seen fit to actually enforce the requirement sufficiently to change Verizon's behavior. (Or why they just don't use your suggestion, say they failed, repeatedly, pull the plug, and make their own system. They could pay for a LOT with the profits, even providing better and cheaper service)

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nyc has sued verizon multiple (?) times for failing to roll out fiber into the city and just keeping the money. Each time verizon does some update, or rolls ou

by ep103 5y ago

toss1 5y ago
NYC needs to get serious Tell Verizon and the others that if they fail to fulfill their contract, the will get their license pulled, or, at the very least, they will operate their own local municipal broadband. Of course the incentives are probably for each individual politician such that with enough graft, campaign donations, etc., that they just stick with the status quo, but I'm not familiar with the local situation. [edit: typo "fulled" => "pulled"]
- thomastjeffery 5y ago
  It sounds like that is what they have been doing. What they need to do now is tell Verizon that they failed to fulfill their contract, pull their license, and operate their own municipal broadband.
  - lotsofpulp 5y ago
    New York City government has been all talk and no walk because they also do not want to pony up the sufficient funds to make it happen.
  - toss1 5y ago
    Yup. Although, while I'm no longer familiar with the local situation, it seems that the action has more been to sue Verizon and pocket the proceeds from the lawsuits into the general fund, while keeping their actual regulatory big gun in the holster. Managing lawsuits and paying fines is apparently still cheaper for Verizon than actually installing the fiber. What I want to know is WHY no regulator or judge has seen fit to actually enforce the requirement sufficiently to change Verizon's behavior. (Or why they just don't use your suggestion, say they failed, repeatedly, pull the plug, and make their own system. They could pay for a LOT with the profits, even providing better and cheaper service)