>And if you’re a new college grad, associate positions can be fast ways to learn engineering on the job and get exposure to large scale systems that you wouldn’

>And if you’re a new college grad, associate positions can be fast ways to learn engineering on the job and get exposure to large scale systems that you wouldn’t otherwise work with. Not sure about this part. when i was younger, i used to work for Avanade. Accenture joint venture with Microsoft. the only coding project that i ever done while i was there is porting an outdated Microsoft Outlook add-on to Visual Studio Office Tool (.Net based). Most of time you just sit on the side line and study for Microsoft cert. while going to event where you might meet Project Manager with project that might fit you.