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Having worked with them in the past I can summarize them as having great presentations and NO substance. Any company that hires them will lose, and it is a sign

Having worked with them in the past I can summarize them as having great presentations and NO substance. Any company that hires them will lose, and it is a sign of a company to short if they are public. The IT equivalent of the Darwin awards. Accenture continues to thrive.

tsjq 6y ago
Kinda similar to Cognizant, IBM, Capgemini, Infosys, Wipro, etc ?
- decafninja 6y ago
  Along with Capgemini, I thought Accenture did stuff outside of tech outsourcing too?
  - Traubenfuchs 6y ago
    Accenture is "split" into Technology, Digital, Strategy and a few others. In technology and digital they have implementation devs and in strategy they have power point warriors.
- thrower123 6y ago
  Bingo. Don't forget Tata Consulting. It's basically the whole top of the H-1B sponsors list that aren't FAAMG https://h1bgrader.com/reports/sponsors/lca/2020 https://h1bgrader.com/reports/sponsors/lca/2020
  - S53Vflnr4n 6y ago
    This is a good thing IMO. Accenture and the other body shops are a giant wealth redistribution machine. Its selfish to think that only FAANG employees should hold all the wealth. Let it trickle down to other less equal humans too.
  - sprkwd 6y ago
    and Deloitte.
- rchaud 6y ago
  Don't forget Canada's crown jewel of tech consulting, CGI. Responsible for the disastrous first version of healthcare.gov
myth_drannon 6y ago
They mostly get government contracts so it's just a waste of tax payer's money.
- nopcode 6y ago
  No they do not. Accenture's Public Sector ("government contracts") business is less than 20%.* * US Federal Government contracts are handled by a subsidiary though, Accenture Federal Services (AFS).
JPKab 6y ago
I worked in this space in one of the biggest issues is the kind of company and the kind of dysfunction within this company that causes them to think that hiring consultants externally is a good idea. It's almost always not a good idea of course. It's a really really good way to minimize risk if you have some terrible position in government where there's no upside to performance but there's a huge downside to making the wrong decision that blows things up. You bring in external consultants they put a stamp on some solution which they can't ever implement and you can just point to them and say wasn't my fault.
- yelling_cat 6y ago
  Dysfunction is manna for consultants. In one of my first jobs out of school clients at the large shipping company we were consulting to would regularly ask us for information other employees at that company had provided us. It struck me as odd, so I asked my manager about it. He explained that our work involved two departments at the company whose directors hated each other and wouldn't let their teams work together. Their employees used us as intermediaries to share info critical to doing their jobs without getting in trouble for it. Later in my career I was brought in by tech teams to recommend solutions that they'd already thoroughly researched and settled on, but didn't have the internal clout to get approved. Once the external expert OK'd it they'd get the budget and headcount they'd been asking for.

tsjq 6y ago

Kinda similar to Cognizant, IBM, Capgemini, Infosys, Wipro, etc ?

decafninja 6y ago
Along with Capgemini, I thought Accenture did stuff outside of tech outsourcing too?
- Traubenfuchs 6y ago
  Accenture is "split" into Technology, Digital, Strategy and a few others. In technology and digital they have implementation devs and in strategy they have power point warriors.
thrower123 6y ago
Bingo. Don't forget Tata Consulting. It's basically the whole top of the H-1B sponsors list that aren't FAAMG https://h1bgrader.com/reports/sponsors/lca/2020 https://h1bgrader.com/reports/sponsors/lca/2020
- S53Vflnr4n 6y ago
  This is a good thing IMO. Accenture and the other body shops are a giant wealth redistribution machine. Its selfish to think that only FAANG employees should hold all the wealth. Let it trickle down to other less equal humans too.
- sprkwd 6y ago
  and Deloitte.
rchaud 6y ago
Don't forget Canada's crown jewel of tech consulting, CGI. Responsible for the disastrous first version of healthcare.gov

myth_drannon 6y ago

They mostly get government contracts so it's just a waste of tax payer's money.

nopcode 6y ago
No they do not. Accenture's Public Sector ("government contracts") business is less than 20%.* * US Federal Government contracts are handled by a subsidiary though, Accenture Federal Services (AFS).

JPKab 6y ago

I worked in this space in one of the biggest issues is the kind of company and the kind of dysfunction within this company that causes them to think that hiring consultants externally is a good idea. It's almost always not a good idea of course. It's a really really good way to minimize risk if you have some terrible position in government where there's no upside to performance but there's a huge downside to making the wrong decision that blows things up. You bring in external consultants they put a stamp on some solution which they can't ever implement and you can just point to them and say wasn't my fault.

yelling_cat 6y ago
Dysfunction is manna for consultants. In one of my first jobs out of school clients at the large shipping company we were consulting to would regularly ask us for information other employees at that company had provided us. It struck me as odd, so I asked my manager about it. He explained that our work involved two departments at the company whose directors hated each other and wouldn't let their teams work together. Their employees used us as intermediaries to share info critical to doing their jobs without getting in trouble for it. Later in my career I was brought in by tech teams to recommend solutions that they'd already thoroughly researched and settled on, but didn't have the internal clout to get approved. Once the external expert OK'd it they'd get the budget and headcount they'd been asking for.