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i honestly don’t remember what period of time you are referring to. could you elaborate on examples from the period of time iOS was “fraught with very unexpecte

by ibero 5y ago

i honestly don’t remember what period of time you are referring to. could you elaborate on examples from the period of time iOS was “fraught with very unexpected failure modes?” edit: i just saw your edit to specify iMessage the app.

slfnflctd 5y ago
I'm referring to iMessage specifically causing tons of unnecessary problems when switching from an iPhone to an Android phone. This was over 5 years ago so I have no idea what's fixed or isn't now, but I do still occasionally have problems when an iPhone user tries to message me as part of a group. These were all intermittent: Messages were lost or delayed for very long periods (going both ways), groups were completely broken, I couldn't tell who was messaging me because they were assigned some random source number (which I think also happened both ways), and images were compressed to illegibility. Some people I seemingly just couldn't text with at all. Here is just one small thread of thousands about it: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6750172 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6750172 [Not the best example, but I'm having trouble tracking down the posts I remember browsing back when I made the switch.] It was a complete mess, experienced by many users, and it was entirely Apple's fault.
- neetdeth 5y ago
  Terrible, considering how text-centric social relationships have become. Reply delays on the order of hours are considered to send a strong signal. "Double texting" is a faux pas. It pains me to think how many friendships and romantic relationships might have been crushed by this bug. Neither party will ever know why.
- threeseed 5y ago
  That thread is from 8 years ago. And you're talking about issues from 5 years ago. I really don't understand why you think it's relevant today.
  - slfnflctd 5y ago
    Because the title of the article this thread is about is, "Eddy Cue wanted to bring iMessage to Android in 2013". Which is exactly what should have happened.
Sodman 5y ago
For folks switching to iOS for the first time from Android the experience can be incredibly frustrating, if you don't know that you're supposed to do things "The Right™" way. Examples from personal anecdotes include: - My first Macbook pro several years ago was the cheapest one at the time, and basically got stuck in a boot loop when I opted out of creating an apple ID on setup. Needed to boot into safe mode and factory reset it to start again. - Setting up an iPad (in the last year) for a first time iOS user, required two 2FA challenges and needed the apple ID password ended no fewer than 7 times in the first 5 minutes of operation. The App Store didn't work for a few minutes for reasons unknown, and then with no changes, started working. (I'm guessing the creation of a new apple ID takes a few minutes to propagate to the app store or something?) I'm sure everything goes smoothly when you just log in with an apple account and import all of your existing settings from iCloud etc, but if you're jumping in for the first time and press the wrong buttons it's rough!
- the_other 5y ago
  No.. the 2FA stuff is awkward as hell even for someone that’s been in the ecosystem for years.

by ibero 5y ago

slfnflctd 5y ago

I'm referring to iMessage specifically causing tons of unnecessary problems when switching from an iPhone to an Android phone. This was over 5 years ago so I have no idea what's fixed or isn't now, but I do still occasionally have problems when an iPhone user tries to message me as part of a group. These were all intermittent: Messages were lost or delayed for very long periods (going both ways), groups were completely broken, I couldn't tell who was messaging me because they were assigned some random source number (which I think also happened both ways), and images were compressed to illegibility. Some people I seemingly just couldn't text with at all. Here is just one small thread of thousands about it: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6750172 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/6750172 [Not the best example, but I'm having trouble tracking down the posts I remember browsing back when I made the switch.] It was a complete mess, experienced by many users, and it was entirely Apple's fault.

neetdeth 5y ago
Terrible, considering how text-centric social relationships have become. Reply delays on the order of hours are considered to send a strong signal. "Double texting" is a faux pas. It pains me to think how many friendships and romantic relationships might have been crushed by this bug. Neither party will ever know why.
threeseed 5y ago
That thread is from 8 years ago. And you're talking about issues from 5 years ago. I really don't understand why you think it's relevant today.
- slfnflctd 5y ago
  Because the title of the article this thread is about is, "Eddy Cue wanted to bring iMessage to Android in 2013". Which is exactly what should have happened.

Sodman 5y ago

For folks switching to iOS for the first time from Android the experience can be incredibly frustrating, if you don't know that you're supposed to do things "The Right™" way. Examples from personal anecdotes include: - My first Macbook pro several years ago was the cheapest one at the time, and basically got stuck in a boot loop when I opted out of creating an apple ID on setup. Needed to boot into safe mode and factory reset it to start again. - Setting up an iPad (in the last year) for a first time iOS user, required two 2FA challenges and needed the apple ID password ended no fewer than 7 times in the first 5 minutes of operation. The App Store didn't work for a few minutes for reasons unknown, and then with no changes, started working. (I'm guessing the creation of a new apple ID takes a few minutes to propagate to the app store or something?) I'm sure everything goes smoothly when you just log in with an apple account and import all of your existing settings from iCloud etc, but if you're jumping in for the first time and press the wrong buttons it's rough!

the_other 5y ago
No.. the 2FA stuff is awkward as hell even for someone that’s been in the ecosystem for years.