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When one doesn't defend free speech for those they don't like, then they don't care about free speech. Would you rather have them run their site in open so peop
by busymom0 6y ago
When one doesn't defend free speech for those they don't like, then they don't care about free speech. Would you rather have them run their site in open so people can simply not visit their site and others can watch for vile stuff they might be talking about? Or put them under the rug so they go even more underground with even less opposing view points and thus falling in their echo chambers?
Also now a days any opposing speech gets classified as nazis and white supremacist etc labels. Take Tulsi Gabbard getting her Adsense account censored by Google for example and getting called a russian agent and then it escalating to her supporters being called nazis and Assad toadies. Bernie supporters got called misogynsts for political purposes. The censorship tools always get abused eventually on those who advocated for it.
Related article on how ACLU used to defend free speech of even neo-nazis but have since then abandoned their principles and now actively give their data to Facebook:
https://greenwald.substack.com/p/aclu-again-cowardly-abstains-from https://greenwald.substack.com/p/aclu-again-cowardly-abstain...
https://news.yahoo.com/aclu-says-shares-user-data-134345916.html https://news.yahoo.com/aclu-says-shares-user-data-134345916....
Now censorship is being used against animal rights groups:
https://outsidevoices.substack.com/p/the-targets-of-bidens-war-on-domestic https://outsidevoices.substack.com/p/the-targets-of-bidens-w...
Even CloudFlare defended hosting terrorist site for "free speech" reasons:
https://www.fastcompany.com/90312063/how-cloudflare-straddles-its-role-as-privacy-champion-and-hate-speech-enabler https://www.fastcompany.com/90312063/how-cloudflare-straddle...
https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-and-free-speech/ https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-and-free-speech/
- smcl 6y agoNah I'd kick Stormfront off my platform without a moment of hesitation
- snotrockets 6y agoThis isn't about free speech. It's about not being labeled a sympathizer.
- busymom0 6y agoWas ACLU a neo nazi sympathizer in 1970s?
- snotrockets 6y agoI think ACLU are severely misguided, if not acting dangerously in their active support of a CLIENT rather than a CAUSE, and thus actively supporting and encouraging proprietors of hate speech. Those who are already clicking on "reply" ready quote Niemöller's poem back to me should expect to be quoted Popper back, and be reminded that those that came for Niemöller are the same ones they wish to protect, and that those assholes wouldn't lift a finger to help you back: they'd rather punch you. It's not a bad idea to punch them back and remind them that they have no place in society, and should crawl back to whatever beerhall they crawled out from.