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Were your papers failed because they had radical ideas, or debunked ideas (that said, can any educational theory ever be thoroughly debunked, all hard facts acc

Were your papers failed because they had radical ideas, or debunked ideas (that said, can any educational theory ever be thoroughly debunked, all hard facts accounted for)?

Alex3917 18y ago
Well, I turned one of them into this K5 article so you can judge for yourself: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/12/8/2135/17844 http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/12/8/2135/17844 Actually, that one I wrote in October 2004, and one of the biggest problems with it was that the professor had never heard of Wikipedia and didn't think that the site could ever possibly succeed. (The first drafts were more Wikipedia-centric, but a lot of that got cut out of the final version.)
- kleneway 18y ago
  Great article, thanks for providing a point of view from someone who's not talking out of their a$$ (aka me). The wiki idea is very, very interesting - it's got that same "I'm not doing this for money but to help the world be a better place" vibe that (imho) is what makes Wikipedia successful. There are valid criticisms of this approach in the comments, namely that it would require a very strict quality control process before educators could trust it. Otherwise, millions of children would grow up thinking that Stephen Colbert really did single-handedly triple the elephant population.
  - Alex3917 18y ago
    I'm not sure I would still agree with everything I wrote though, so take it with a grain of salt. (Although I haven't actually reread it recently.)
- whacked_new 18y ago
  Given its brevity (in terms of length and citations), I suppose this writing is making a personal case for PI, from a mostly theoretical standpoint? The mention of Skinner threw me off in the beginning, but my feeling is the PI you mention isn't a behaviorist one, but a metaphorical one? If so, I absolutely agree with this idea, and think we have enough technology to make it a reality.
  - Alex3917 18y ago
    Yeah there is a lot of stuff in there I wouldn't say today. That's why I linked to it, as an example of my failing to understand intrinsic motivation.

Were your papers failed because they had radical ideas, or debunked ideas (that said, can any educational theory ever be thoroughly debunked, all hard facts accounted for)?

Alex3917 18y ago

Well, I turned one of them into this K5 article so you can judge for yourself: http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/12/8/2135/17844 http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2004/12/8/2135/17844 Actually, that one I wrote in October 2004, and one of the biggest problems with it was that the professor had never heard of Wikipedia and didn't think that the site could ever possibly succeed. (The first drafts were more Wikipedia-centric, but a lot of that got cut out of the final version.)

kleneway 18y ago
Great article, thanks for providing a point of view from someone who's not talking out of their a$$ (aka me). The wiki idea is very, very interesting - it's got that same "I'm not doing this for money but to help the world be a better place" vibe that (imho) is what makes Wikipedia successful. There are valid criticisms of this approach in the comments, namely that it would require a very strict quality control process before educators could trust it. Otherwise, millions of children would grow up thinking that Stephen Colbert really did single-handedly triple the elephant population.
- Alex3917 18y ago
  I'm not sure I would still agree with everything I wrote though, so take it with a grain of salt. (Although I haven't actually reread it recently.)
whacked_new 18y ago
Given its brevity (in terms of length and citations), I suppose this writing is making a personal case for PI, from a mostly theoretical standpoint? The mention of Skinner threw me off in the beginning, but my feeling is the PI you mention isn't a behaviorist one, but a metaphorical one? If so, I absolutely agree with this idea, and think we have enough technology to make it a reality.
- Alex3917 18y ago
  Yeah there is a lot of stuff in there I wouldn't say today. That's why I linked to it, as an example of my failing to understand intrinsic motivation.