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Many content creators are starting to move to a Patreon+Twitch model, in addition to YouTube.

nextlevelwizard 6y ago
Works if you are only delivering live videos. I've never been able to get into Twitch because there is so much dead time without anything interesting happening. Patreon only works if you already have established fan base that is willing to pay for your content. It does not help with discoverability at all. Youtube is still the king of video no matter how you slice it.
- skinkestek 6y ago
  > Youtube is still the king of video no matter how you slice it. For now. Rumble might or might not break through to mainstream. Same with those fediverse solutions for different reasons. Vimeo already works beautifully and is clean in every way AFAIK.
  - lanterk 6y ago
    Except Vimeo is not really competing with YouTube, and has a strict restrictions on the type of videos it accepts.
    - skinkestek 6y ago
      Vimeo competes in one segment. Rumble in another. Peertube etc in a third. Self-hosting by media companies in a fourth. Etc.
  - nextlevelwizard 6y ago
    >Rumble I've never heard about it before now >fediverse solutions The what? >Vimeo already works beautifully Except you can't monetize your content and in fact you have to pay to post in the first place plus you can't post (at least) gaming related content.
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    - skinkestek 6y ago
      >>Rumble > I've never heard about it before now Congratulations! You are one of todays 10000 lucky :-) >>fediverse solutions > The what? Peertube for example. >>Vimeo already works beautifully > Except you can't monetize your content and in fact you have to pay to post in the first place plus you can't post (at least) gaming related content. Proof that you can: https://vimeo.com/ondemand/effectivejavaee https://vimeo.com/ondemand/effectivejavaee
- colanderman 6y ago
  Ah you know I am thinking of Vimeo I think. (The producers I follow upload only prerecorded material.) I guess that demonstrates how little brand recognition the YouTube competitors have :)
theshrike79 6y ago
Twitch isn't much better than YouTube when it comes to arbitrary bans. Their top streamers can literally spread their asshole on camera and get a 3 day ban. All this while normal streamers can get permanently banned for any small offence. Vimeo or Floatplane seems to be the way to go, depending whether you want to be subscriber-only or have free viewers too.
lanterk 6y ago
5witch and YouTube are very different functionality, you really don't want Twitch to be the main for source.

Works if you are only delivering live videos. I've never been able to get into Twitch because there is so much dead time without anything interesting happening. Patreon only works if you already have established fan base that is willing to pay for your content. It does not help with discoverability at all. Youtube is still the king of video no matter how you slice it.

skinkestek 6y ago
> Youtube is still the king of video no matter how you slice it. For now. Rumble might or might not break through to mainstream. Same with those fediverse solutions for different reasons. Vimeo already works beautifully and is clean in every way AFAIK.
- lanterk 6y ago
  Except Vimeo is not really competing with YouTube, and has a strict restrictions on the type of videos it accepts.
  - skinkestek 6y ago
    Vimeo competes in one segment. Rumble in another. Peertube etc in a third. Self-hosting by media companies in a fourth. Etc.
- nextlevelwizard 6y ago
  >Rumble I've never heard about it before now >fediverse solutions The what? >Vimeo already works beautifully Except you can't monetize your content and in fact you have to pay to post in the first place plus you can't post (at least) gaming related content.
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  - skinkestek 6y ago
    >>Rumble > I've never heard about it before now Congratulations! You are one of todays 10000 lucky :-) >>fediverse solutions > The what? Peertube for example. >>Vimeo already works beautifully > Except you can't monetize your content and in fact you have to pay to post in the first place plus you can't post (at least) gaming related content. Proof that you can: https://vimeo.com/ondemand/effectivejavaee https://vimeo.com/ondemand/effectivejavaee
colanderman 6y ago
Ah you know I am thinking of Vimeo I think. (The producers I follow upload only prerecorded material.) I guess that demonstrates how little brand recognition the YouTube competitors have :)

theshrike79 6y ago

Twitch isn't much better than YouTube when it comes to arbitrary bans. Their top streamers can literally spread their asshole on camera and get a 3 day ban. All this while normal streamers can get permanently banned for any small offence. Vimeo or Floatplane seems to be the way to go, depending whether you want to be subscriber-only or have free viewers too.

lanterk 6y ago

5witch and YouTube are very different functionality, you really don't want Twitch to be the main for source.