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I don't think there should be a minimum legal age for any of these activities. It's beyond clear that coddling helicopter government invoked disastrous conseque

I don't think there should be a minimum legal age for any of these activities. It's beyond clear that coddling helicopter government invoked disastrous consequences for Western society

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sodality2 5y ago
Can you name some of those consequences in "western society" you believe were caused by "coddling helicopter gov't" actions, similar to regulating advertising addictive products to minors?
- xkeysc0re 5y ago
  Yes. Society-wide we see an increased abdication of personal responsibility and general apathy. Increased mental illness. Severe feelings of loneliness and isolation brought about due to atomization by a government that's operated like a consultancy avoiding any liability or risk.
  - sodality2 5y ago
    I'm curious which government regulation would cause increased mental illness/loneliness? I mean, I'm sure somewhere it's happening because of gov't, but to say it's the main contributor instead of problems like lack of access to good therapy, cultural shifts in how you talk to people, etc., in my mind seems largely a misplacement of blame.
  - carpedimebagjoe 5y ago
    That maybe so, but those are a lot of different areas to cover. Perhaps specific examples, trends, and/or causes would help support each claim. For example, how is it the government's fault, in particular? Is it only the government's fault? Are there other contributing factors or trends? It comes across too much like oversimplified scapegoatism rather than a reasoned explanation.
  - indemnity 5y ago
    Except these are problems in most modern developed nations, whether they “coddle” their populace or not. Perhaps our economic system and its focus on efficiency in a race to the bottom, externalities be damned, also bears a small responsibility.
listless 5y ago
I completely agree. The amount of pearl clutching happening in this thread is fascinating. It reminds me very much of the 1980’s fundamentalist Christian house I was raised in. Very much like it.
minikites 5y ago
How is society improved by letting 8 year olds gamble?
- xkeysc0re 5y ago
  - Children learn applied mathematic principles earlier, such as odds and optimizations - Gives children a chance to materially understand the meaning of a dollar - Allows for demonstrations of propositional logic and formal reasoning
- throwaway0a5e 5y ago
  Would you rather find out your kid has a gambling problem (or addictive personality in general) at 8 or 16?

I don't think there should be a minimum legal age for any of these activities. It's beyond clear that coddling helicopter government invoked disastrous consequences for Western society

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sodality2 5y ago

Can you name some of those consequences in "western society" you believe were caused by "coddling helicopter gov't" actions, similar to regulating advertising addictive products to minors?

xkeysc0re 5y ago
Yes. Society-wide we see an increased abdication of personal responsibility and general apathy. Increased mental illness. Severe feelings of loneliness and isolation brought about due to atomization by a government that's operated like a consultancy avoiding any liability or risk.
- sodality2 5y ago
  I'm curious which government regulation would cause increased mental illness/loneliness? I mean, I'm sure somewhere it's happening because of gov't, but to say it's the main contributor instead of problems like lack of access to good therapy, cultural shifts in how you talk to people, etc., in my mind seems largely a misplacement of blame.
- carpedimebagjoe 5y ago
  That maybe so, but those are a lot of different areas to cover. Perhaps specific examples, trends, and/or causes would help support each claim. For example, how is it the government's fault, in particular? Is it only the government's fault? Are there other contributing factors or trends? It comes across too much like oversimplified scapegoatism rather than a reasoned explanation.
- indemnity 5y ago
  Except these are problems in most modern developed nations, whether they “coddle” their populace or not. Perhaps our economic system and its focus on efficiency in a race to the bottom, externalities be damned, also bears a small responsibility.

listless 5y ago

I completely agree. The amount of pearl clutching happening in this thread is fascinating. It reminds me very much of the 1980’s fundamentalist Christian house I was raised in. Very much like it.

minikites 5y ago

How is society improved by letting 8 year olds gamble?

xkeysc0re 5y ago
- Children learn applied mathematic principles earlier, such as odds and optimizations - Gives children a chance to materially understand the meaning of a dollar - Allows for demonstrations of propositional logic and formal reasoning
throwaway0a5e 5y ago
Would you rather find out your kid has a gambling problem (or addictive personality in general) at 8 or 16?