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"What if a bunch of your ex-girlfriends or ex-boyfriends got together and decided to ruin your life with accusations?" This just pretty much does not happen wi

"What if a bunch of your ex-girlfriends or ex-boyfriends got together and decided to ruin your life with accusations?" This just pretty much does not happen without reason, and I think it is safe to say that if it did, you are probably a terrible person.

sneak 5y ago
> This just pretty much does not happen without reason, and I think it is safe to say that if it did, you are probably a terrible person. That's not a safe assumption at all.
- colecut 5y ago
  That's why I threw in a probably. Innocent until proven guilty and all that jazz, but there will be assumptions nonetheless.. I would love to know what these women stand to gain by humiliating themselves if it is all made up.
  - grammarnazzzi 5y ago
    > I would love to know what these women stand to gain by humiliating themselves if it is all made up. narcissism, absolution of responsibility, validation, attention
tester756 5y ago
>This just pretty much does not happen without reason, and I think it is safe to say that if it did, you are probably a terrible person. oh c'mon, it's insanely naive, let's dont try to push narration that those things do not happen
- colecut 5y ago
  When do they happen, and why did they happen? Edit: since I wasn't clear, I am looking for examples of when this has happened to you, or your friend, or anyone that you have heard of... Edit 2: also by "pretty much" does not happen, I don't mean never happens. But I think the rate at which it happens is probably a rounding error, and I think a lot of people would rather just say "oh well they could be lying" before even bothering to read what they have to say.
  - tester756 5y ago
    Unfortunely I'm unable to come with some kind of recipe/equation for that.
  - suifbwish 5y ago
    How would you expect anyone to know the answer to that?
  - FireBeyond 5y ago
    https://reason.com/2018/10/17/seneca-valley-mean-girls-false-sexual/ https://reason.com/2018/10/17/seneca-valley-mean-girls-false... https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/editorials/2018/10/15/A-cautionary-tale-Seneca-Valley-School-District-MeToo-Girls-admit-falsely-accusing-boy/stories/201810150017 https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/editorials/2018/10/15/A...
    - colecut 5y ago
      Both of these cases were high school situations, a typically traumatizing environment, with immature teenaged people. I'm sorry, I do not see the same likelihood of collusion in this case of intelligent women who had no relation to each other. I am not saying it is impossible, but I have a hard time seeing it.
      - tester756 5y ago
        "intelligent women" what makes you think so?
      - FireBeyond 5y ago
        And UVA rape scandal? Or was that just a college situation, with immature post-adolescent people?
        colecut 5y ago
        I think collusion among people who did not know each other at all is unlikely.
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elzbardico 5y ago
Well, people usually do things for a reason, right? But the reason sometimes is not ethical or fair
oh_sigh 5y ago
People don't go to jail without reason. Therefore everyone in jail is guilty.
- colecut 5y ago
  Nice stretch
  - oh_sigh 5y ago
    "What if a bunch of cops who don't even know you got together and decided to ruin your life with accusations?" This just pretty much does not happen without reason, and I think it is safe to say that if it did, you are probably a terrible person.
    - colecut 5y ago
      This is different, because, statistically, cops ruin peoples lives a lot more often than a team of ex girlfriends... Cops work together, therefor they collude... If you are in high school, and all the girls are teenagers and are in school together, they also may collude.. I'm sorry, I do not see the same likelihood of collusion in this case of intelligent women who had no relation to each other.
      - oh_sigh 5y ago
        Where are you getting your stats from that you're referring to? If it is a hunch, you shouldn't say "statistically". Also, it seems fairly presumptive to assume that ex-partners are intelligent. And to assume that intelligent people don't do crazy things(see: Lisa Nowak)
grammarnazzzi 5y ago
> This just pretty much does not happen without reason, and I think it is safe to say that if it did, you are probably a terrible person. Or you associate with or are attracted to terrible people
suifbwish 5y ago
What on earth makes you feel confident enough to say something like “this just pretty much does not happen without reason” . Some empirical evidence I hope.
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subjectsigma 5y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_University_rape_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_University_rape_contr... TL;DR guy was falsely accused of rape and then harassed for a year regarding the incident with the help of university professors at Columbia. I don't know about "a bunch of your ex-girlfriends" but never say never...
jimmygrapes 5y ago
Similar happened to me. I dated a woman whose step sister was dating my 2nd cousin (no genetic interbreeding). At some point we had a falling out about her infidelity, but her emotional sway with both her family and mine were more supportive of her story. At first it was just "it didn't work out" but as time passed she decided, for reasons I don't know or understand, that I needed to be punished. She invented several different stories and spread them at the family gatherings I wasn't invited to, and eventually I had both her and her extended family and my extended family first avoiding me, then actively excluding me from communication and visits. Eventually I learned that she claimed I was touching her daughter and was cheating on her with her coworker (whom I had never even met). I tried to defend myself but it was too late. Today she has been married and divorced twice, and I have zero contact with any of those involved. I only know her status because Facebook doesn't stop sending me update email despite deactivating that account years ago. Point is, the whisper network is powerful, and doesn't give a shit about reality.
- noobermin 5y ago
  Like a previous story, this is truly harrowing, and I think everyone reading this sympathesizes with you. This however doesn't really sound like exes teaming up to destroy you, this is just one bad person.
- colecut 5y ago
  I'm sorry this happened to you. I definitely believe it happened to you, without knowing you, because I don't see much reason for you to make it up.. It's a shame your ex made up lies about you, that probably happens a lot. It is worth pointing out that you are trying to make a point with this story, and you are the only one telling it, and I'm supposed to take you on your word that this actually happened.. Yet here we have multiple adult grown adult women, unrelated to each other yet similar (minorities, poor, vulnerable), trying to make their point with 3x the "backing", and so many want to call them liars immediately. It's funny in a sad way.

sneak 5y ago

> This just pretty much does not happen without reason, and I think it is safe to say that if it did, you are probably a terrible person. That's not a safe assumption at all.

colecut 5y ago
That's why I threw in a probably. Innocent until proven guilty and all that jazz, but there will be assumptions nonetheless.. I would love to know what these women stand to gain by humiliating themselves if it is all made up.
- grammarnazzzi 5y ago
  > I would love to know what these women stand to gain by humiliating themselves if it is all made up. narcissism, absolution of responsibility, validation, attention

tester756 5y ago

>This just pretty much does not happen without reason, and I think it is safe to say that if it did, you are probably a terrible person. oh c'mon, it's insanely naive, let's dont try to push narration that those things do not happen

colecut 5y ago
When do they happen, and why did they happen? Edit: since I wasn't clear, I am looking for examples of when this has happened to you, or your friend, or anyone that you have heard of... Edit 2: also by "pretty much" does not happen, I don't mean never happens. But I think the rate at which it happens is probably a rounding error, and I think a lot of people would rather just say "oh well they could be lying" before even bothering to read what they have to say.
- tester756 5y ago
  Unfortunely I'm unable to come with some kind of recipe/equation for that.
- suifbwish 5y ago
  How would you expect anyone to know the answer to that?
- FireBeyond 5y ago
  https://reason.com/2018/10/17/seneca-valley-mean-girls-false-sexual/ https://reason.com/2018/10/17/seneca-valley-mean-girls-false... https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/editorials/2018/10/15/A-cautionary-tale-Seneca-Valley-School-District-MeToo-Girls-admit-falsely-accusing-boy/stories/201810150017 https://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/editorials/2018/10/15/A...
  - colecut 5y ago
    Both of these cases were high school situations, a typically traumatizing environment, with immature teenaged people. I'm sorry, I do not see the same likelihood of collusion in this case of intelligent women who had no relation to each other. I am not saying it is impossible, but I have a hard time seeing it.
    - tester756 5y ago
      "intelligent women" what makes you think so?
    - FireBeyond 5y ago
      And UVA rape scandal? Or was that just a college situation, with immature post-adolescent people?
      - colecut 5y ago
        I think collusion among people who did not know each other at all is unlikely.
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elzbardico 5y ago

Well, people usually do things for a reason, right? But the reason sometimes is not ethical or fair

oh_sigh 5y ago

People don't go to jail without reason. Therefore everyone in jail is guilty.

colecut 5y ago
Nice stretch
- oh_sigh 5y ago
  "What if a bunch of cops who don't even know you got together and decided to ruin your life with accusations?" This just pretty much does not happen without reason, and I think it is safe to say that if it did, you are probably a terrible person.
  - colecut 5y ago
    This is different, because, statistically, cops ruin peoples lives a lot more often than a team of ex girlfriends... Cops work together, therefor they collude... If you are in high school, and all the girls are teenagers and are in school together, they also may collude.. I'm sorry, I do not see the same likelihood of collusion in this case of intelligent women who had no relation to each other.
    - oh_sigh 5y ago
      Where are you getting your stats from that you're referring to? If it is a hunch, you shouldn't say "statistically". Also, it seems fairly presumptive to assume that ex-partners are intelligent. And to assume that intelligent people don't do crazy things(see: Lisa Nowak)

grammarnazzzi 5y ago

> This just pretty much does not happen without reason, and I think it is safe to say that if it did, you are probably a terrible person. Or you associate with or are attracted to terrible people

suifbwish 5y ago

What on earth makes you feel confident enough to say something like “this just pretty much does not happen without reason” . Some empirical evidence I hope.

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subjectsigma 5y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_University_rape_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_University_rape_contr... TL;DR guy was falsely accused of rape and then harassed for a year regarding the incident with the help of university professors at Columbia. I don't know about "a bunch of your ex-girlfriends" but never say never...

jimmygrapes 5y ago

Similar happened to me. I dated a woman whose step sister was dating my 2nd cousin (no genetic interbreeding). At some point we had a falling out about her infidelity, but her emotional sway with both her family and mine were more supportive of her story. At first it was just "it didn't work out" but as time passed she decided, for reasons I don't know or understand, that I needed to be punished. She invented several different stories and spread them at the family gatherings I wasn't invited to, and eventually I had both her and her extended family and my extended family first avoiding me, then actively excluding me from communication and visits. Eventually I learned that she claimed I was touching her daughter and was cheating on her with her coworker (whom I had never even met). I tried to defend myself but it was too late. Today she has been married and divorced twice, and I have zero contact with any of those involved. I only know her status because Facebook doesn't stop sending me update email despite deactivating that account years ago. Point is, the whisper network is powerful, and doesn't give a shit about reality.

noobermin 5y ago
Like a previous story, this is truly harrowing, and I think everyone reading this sympathesizes with you. This however doesn't really sound like exes teaming up to destroy you, this is just one bad person.
colecut 5y ago
I'm sorry this happened to you. I definitely believe it happened to you, without knowing you, because I don't see much reason for you to make it up.. It's a shame your ex made up lies about you, that probably happens a lot. It is worth pointing out that you are trying to make a point with this story, and you are the only one telling it, and I'm supposed to take you on your word that this actually happened.. Yet here we have multiple adult grown adult women, unrelated to each other yet similar (minorities, poor, vulnerable), trying to make their point with 3x the "backing", and so many want to call them liars immediately. It's funny in a sad way.