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Pardon me for being rude, but this seems like a pretty naive marketing take on what they're offering. What exactly is the use case here? Employees that have hun

Pardon me for being rude, but this seems like a pretty naive marketing take on what they're offering. What exactly is the use case here? Employees that have hundreds of tabs open saving a couple seconds loading web pages? How much productivity is being lost there, objectively? Once you get above 20 tabs, are you genuinely keeping track of every single one as something to return to later? Or are you just being lazy and lack the personal systems to track what's actually important or needs to be returned to later? I've been using a 11y/o computer at home for everything--code compilation, VMs, work AND personal life--and this has never been an issue for me. Maybe I'll give you #3, but if an employee came to me asking for this as a paid subscription, I'd shut the idea down immediately. Seems like another startup trying to fill a space that doesn't need to be occupied.

6510 5y ago
> Once you get above 20 tabs, are you genuinely keeping track of every single one as something to return to later? yes! Ideally I have around 500 tabs that I all need. I for example let your comment sit here for a while unsure if I was going to reply to it. There are more topics on HN currently under investigation. Each spawns a series of extra tabs. Cloud browsers, whole OS in the cloud, what hapend to paperspace? I open several articles that I may or may not read. When I get back to this discussion I look over the tabs it spawned and continue exploring while closing old ones... There is a window with music, one with youtube videos I might want to watch/comment on with the further research tabs they spawn. A dozen tax tabs, courier services, business card services. Dozens of tabs for websites I'm working at. jsfiddles, specs, demos. Tabs about wind turbines without propellers, road side wind turbines, covid, oil and coal reserves. And aggregators ofc Basically, I can only do work or look at depressing shit for so long but I get back to it after watching a cat video. When closing lots of tabs I go over the topics which helps me remember what I've looked at. Its funny howmany people I talk with who have a single tab (usually also a single application and a single monitor) but know instinctively that their approach is better. (as if there should be only one metric) I cant begin to explain how much I'm enjoying myself. In the old days there was webspeedreader and MyIE2 that were much more suitable for the giant session. Then there was tabmixplus and then came chrome which is pretty much a turd with 10+ tabs then web extensions killed all the good tools.
- ehershey 5y ago
  Thanks for this! Seriously I’m a tab minimalist and this narrative is a great explanation of how “the other half” lives.
- w0utert 5y ago
  It's definitely interesting to see how people's workflows can be so different, I get by with at most ~10 tabs, and close things as soon as I'm done with them. At the end of the working day, I prefer to have at most 2 or 3 left. I sincerely start to experience existential anxiety when the number of tabs goes up too much :-P. Probably related to some subconscious feeling that I need to 'do something' with all these tabs and when they increase in number it starts to feel like I'm 'running behind'. Different people, different workflows, that's perfectly fine. What I don't really see is why this service needs to exist to solve that particular problem (browser gets slow because too many tabs), because IMO that problem has already been solved very well by most decent browsers. They just swap out the inactive tabs and are able to restore them fast enough even on low-end systems, as long as they have an SSD. Inactive tabs that are not swapped out don't take a lot of CPU resources either. This service sells you a cloud browser with 16GB of RAM, which is pretty much the norm for laptops and desktops now, so it's not going to save you much if 'too many tabs' is causing slowness.
  - 6510 5y ago
    I keep the things I need to do in a separate window. If it gets to crowded I drag some less important ones to a different window. I get anxiety when behind but also if I forget to live. Switching between topics effectively is hard if you are not used to it and it definitely eats away my focus if I don't pay attention. For a while I use different browsers simultaneously for different things. The session turns out entirely different for some reason as if one is a different person in a different location. I could see a cloud browser as something like that. I have no idea what would happen. Portability will probably influence the session. I wish bookmarks were good enough, I use tabs in stead to preserve scroll audio and video offset and to have a bunch of tabs for a domain with related tabs next to them. Browsers have poor organization for large numbers of tabs but bookmarks are even worse. I have no real idea how the session should be organized but I'm sure there are tons of visualizations out there that would work wonderfully. Perhaps some filters with a flow chart for the entire browsing history. Full text search? I don't know. The price doesn't really matter as I spend way to much time online. 1 euro per day is nothing.
Jommi 5y ago
You're clearly not the target market then. There is an increasing amount of very resource heavy browser based tools that benefit a bunch from this. AND we're not even talking about the huge nocode push happening rn which always end up as RAM hogs AND AND we're not even yet talking about the huge clunky internal tools that some companies have their whole business revolving around.
roody15 5y ago
I agree. Not convinced I see a sustainable market here.
eli 5y ago
I'd be surprised if any of our journalists had fewer than 20 tabs open at a time.

6510 5y ago

> Once you get above 20 tabs, are you genuinely keeping track of every single one as something to return to later? yes! Ideally I have around 500 tabs that I all need. I for example let your comment sit here for a while unsure if I was going to reply to it. There are more topics on HN currently under investigation. Each spawns a series of extra tabs. Cloud browsers, whole OS in the cloud, what hapend to paperspace? I open several articles that I may or may not read. When I get back to this discussion I look over the tabs it spawned and continue exploring while closing old ones... There is a window with music, one with youtube videos I might want to watch/comment on with the further research tabs they spawn. A dozen tax tabs, courier services, business card services. Dozens of tabs for websites I'm working at. jsfiddles, specs, demos. Tabs about wind turbines without propellers, road side wind turbines, covid, oil and coal reserves. And aggregators ofc Basically, I can only do work or look at depressing shit for so long but I get back to it after watching a cat video. When closing lots of tabs I go over the topics which helps me remember what I've looked at. Its funny howmany people I talk with who have a single tab (usually also a single application and a single monitor) but know instinctively that their approach is better. (as if there should be only one metric) I cant begin to explain how much I'm enjoying myself. In the old days there was webspeedreader and MyIE2 that were much more suitable for the giant session. Then there was tabmixplus and then came chrome which is pretty much a turd with 10+ tabs then web extensions killed all the good tools.

ehershey 5y ago
Thanks for this! Seriously I’m a tab minimalist and this narrative is a great explanation of how “the other half” lives.
w0utert 5y ago
It's definitely interesting to see how people's workflows can be so different, I get by with at most ~10 tabs, and close things as soon as I'm done with them. At the end of the working day, I prefer to have at most 2 or 3 left. I sincerely start to experience existential anxiety when the number of tabs goes up too much :-P. Probably related to some subconscious feeling that I need to 'do something' with all these tabs and when they increase in number it starts to feel like I'm 'running behind'. Different people, different workflows, that's perfectly fine. What I don't really see is why this service needs to exist to solve that particular problem (browser gets slow because too many tabs), because IMO that problem has already been solved very well by most decent browsers. They just swap out the inactive tabs and are able to restore them fast enough even on low-end systems, as long as they have an SSD. Inactive tabs that are not swapped out don't take a lot of CPU resources either. This service sells you a cloud browser with 16GB of RAM, which is pretty much the norm for laptops and desktops now, so it's not going to save you much if 'too many tabs' is causing slowness.
- 6510 5y ago
  I keep the things I need to do in a separate window. If it gets to crowded I drag some less important ones to a different window. I get anxiety when behind but also if I forget to live. Switching between topics effectively is hard if you are not used to it and it definitely eats away my focus if I don't pay attention. For a while I use different browsers simultaneously for different things. The session turns out entirely different for some reason as if one is a different person in a different location. I could see a cloud browser as something like that. I have no idea what would happen. Portability will probably influence the session. I wish bookmarks were good enough, I use tabs in stead to preserve scroll audio and video offset and to have a bunch of tabs for a domain with related tabs next to them. Browsers have poor organization for large numbers of tabs but bookmarks are even worse. I have no real idea how the session should be organized but I'm sure there are tons of visualizations out there that would work wonderfully. Perhaps some filters with a flow chart for the entire browsing history. Full text search? I don't know. The price doesn't really matter as I spend way to much time online. 1 euro per day is nothing.

Jommi 5y ago

You're clearly not the target market then. There is an increasing amount of very resource heavy browser based tools that benefit a bunch from this. AND we're not even talking about the huge nocode push happening rn which always end up as RAM hogs AND AND we're not even yet talking about the huge clunky internal tools that some companies have their whole business revolving around.

roody15 5y ago

I agree. Not convinced I see a sustainable market here.

eli 5y ago

I'd be surprised if any of our journalists had fewer than 20 tabs open at a time.