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If only we could render web pages server-side and send some kind of highly-compressible lightweight drawing instructions to the client.

andiareso 5y ago
I feel like we engineers are putting too many abstractions on things. It's like we are all peddling "get rich quick" schemes to people trying to weasel our way into some super popular process. This screams like an anti-direct-to-consumer model. STOP CREATING MIDDLEMEN! It's going to cost me 30 bucks to just browse the web where I spend another dollar amount to where someone collects a "handling fee". Jesus I feel like the world is going nuts.
ampdepolymerase 5y ago
Most remote X server setups have high latency.
- intergalplan 5y ago
  I was making an observation about HTML, perhaps too cutely.
skavi 5y ago
Apparently Google’s Blimp[0] project was exactly that before being abandoned. [0]: https://github.com/crosswalk-project/chromium-crosswalk/tree/master/blimp https://github.com/crosswalk-project/chromium-crosswalk/tree...
- acchow 5y ago
  For those that missed the joke, they are referring to server-side rendering and sending only HTML to the client. This doesn’t solve the Figma case tho.
dekerta 5y ago
I feel like most of the people responding to your comment have missed the joke...
cblconfederate 5y ago
it would have to be PDFs . 60 PDFs / second
graderjs 5y ago
Aside from your HTML interpretation there's another interesting thing that's been tried by a remote browser start up bought by cloudflare, called, I think it was, s2. They hooked into the chromium rendering engine skia drawing instructions and instead of sending screenshots or video from the remote browser to the client they sent the skia drawing instructions and then rebuilt the entire rendering of the HTML client side.
radu_floricica 5y ago
Point taken. But there's a time and a place for everything - nowadays we have the tech to stream the contents of the desktop, and quite probably to it real time. So you could say the problem HTML was solving is gone.
niutech 5y ago
Browsh (https://brow.sh https://brow.sh) is doing this. RDP too.

andiareso 5y ago

I feel like we engineers are putting too many abstractions on things. It's like we are all peddling "get rich quick" schemes to people trying to weasel our way into some super popular process. This screams like an anti-direct-to-consumer model. STOP CREATING MIDDLEMEN! It's going to cost me 30 bucks to just browse the web where I spend another dollar amount to where someone collects a "handling fee". Jesus I feel like the world is going nuts.

ampdepolymerase 5y ago

Most remote X server setups have high latency.

intergalplan 5y ago
I was making an observation about HTML, perhaps too cutely.

skavi 5y ago

Apparently Google’s Blimp[0] project was exactly that before being abandoned. [0]: https://github.com/crosswalk-project/chromium-crosswalk/tree/master/blimp https://github.com/crosswalk-project/chromium-crosswalk/tree...

acchow 5y ago
For those that missed the joke, they are referring to server-side rendering and sending only HTML to the client. This doesn’t solve the Figma case tho.

dekerta 5y ago

I feel like most of the people responding to your comment have missed the joke...

cblconfederate 5y ago

it would have to be PDFs . 60 PDFs / second

graderjs 5y ago

Aside from your HTML interpretation there's another interesting thing that's been tried by a remote browser start up bought by cloudflare, called, I think it was, s2. They hooked into the chromium rendering engine skia drawing instructions and instead of sending screenshots or video from the remote browser to the client they sent the skia drawing instructions and then rebuilt the entire rendering of the HTML client side.

radu_floricica 5y ago

Point taken. But there's a time and a place for everything - nowadays we have the tech to stream the contents of the desktop, and quite probably to it real time. So you could say the problem HTML was solving is gone.

niutech 5y ago

Browsh (https://brow.sh https://brow.sh) is doing this. RDP too.