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With all the respect in the world, I think the complete lack of that happening at all this century should make you pause and reflect on why you think it's even

With all the respect in the world, I think the complete lack of that happening at all this century should make you pause and reflect on why you think it's even remotely possible. I'm happy to be wrong, but I think you're buying too much into the SV/media fearmongering on a handful of companies whose main business is actually just attention economics.

snypher 6y ago
Not happening this century is a big statement. I don't know a lot about this industry, but I don't see why Apple couldn't do what IBM did to arrive at "everyone on x86".
- TameAntelope 6y ago
  I don't know a ton about the history of x86, but I kind of assumed all of that shook out, one way or another, pre-2000. I was using admittedly vague language for rhetorical effect. I only technically meant the past 21 years.
hugi 6y ago
Indeed. It's interesting to see how people like to label Apple a monopoly - a company with a 19% market share in smartphones and an 8% share on the desktop.
- elcomet 6y ago
  in the world sure, but it's a different story in the US.
  - neogodless 6y ago
    About 15% of personal computers in the U.S. now. https://www.statista.com/statistics/576473/united-states-quarterly-pc-shipment-share-apple/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/576473/united-states-qua...
- floatboth 6y ago
  When people use the words "Apple" and "monopoly" it's more often about the iOS walled garden: because there's no (good) sideloading, Apple has a monopoly over app distribution on their mobile devices.
  - ngcc_hk 6y ago
    Android did not have that and we pay less. But so. Like walled garden in a world where nobody know that you are a dog. And you have alternatives on both desktop and mobile. Success is not a crime.
- jjeaff 6y ago
  Is that market share based on total revenue or based on device count? I'm pretty sure it's device count. Which means we are comparing $90 smart phones to $1200 iphones that will result in thousands of dollars spent through the apple ecosystem.
  - chad_c 6y ago
    This is so often overlooked -- Apple's revenue capture of the market is what is astonishing. In 2019, Apple captured 32% of the global revenue for the mobile phone industry and 66% of all profit in Q3 of 2019 [1]. Asymco used to report on this frequently but I'm having trouble finding recent examples [2]. [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2019/12/22/global-phone-profits-apple-66-samsung-17-everyone-else-unlucky-13/?sh=1acc260d2ff3 https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2019/12/22/global-... [2] http://www.asymco.com/2011/08/02/apple-share-of-phone-revenues-increased-to-28/ http://www.asymco.com/2011/08/02/apple-share-of-phone-revenu...

snypher 6y ago

Not happening this century is a big statement. I don't know a lot about this industry, but I don't see why Apple couldn't do what IBM did to arrive at "everyone on x86".

TameAntelope 6y ago
I don't know a ton about the history of x86, but I kind of assumed all of that shook out, one way or another, pre-2000. I was using admittedly vague language for rhetorical effect. I only technically meant the past 21 years.

hugi 6y ago

Indeed. It's interesting to see how people like to label Apple a monopoly - a company with a 19% market share in smartphones and an 8% share on the desktop.

elcomet 6y ago
in the world sure, but it's a different story in the US.
- neogodless 6y ago
  About 15% of personal computers in the U.S. now. https://www.statista.com/statistics/576473/united-states-quarterly-pc-shipment-share-apple/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/576473/united-states-qua...
floatboth 6y ago
When people use the words "Apple" and "monopoly" it's more often about the iOS walled garden: because there's no (good) sideloading, Apple has a monopoly over app distribution on their mobile devices.
- ngcc_hk 6y ago
  Android did not have that and we pay less. But so. Like walled garden in a world where nobody know that you are a dog. And you have alternatives on both desktop and mobile. Success is not a crime.
jjeaff 6y ago
Is that market share based on total revenue or based on device count? I'm pretty sure it's device count. Which means we are comparing $90 smart phones to $1200 iphones that will result in thousands of dollars spent through the apple ecosystem.
- chad_c 6y ago
  This is so often overlooked -- Apple's revenue capture of the market is what is astonishing. In 2019, Apple captured 32% of the global revenue for the mobile phone industry and 66% of all profit in Q3 of 2019 [1]. Asymco used to report on this frequently but I'm having trouble finding recent examples [2]. [1] https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2019/12/22/global-phone-profits-apple-66-samsung-17-everyone-else-unlucky-13/?sh=1acc260d2ff3 https://www.forbes.com/sites/johnkoetsier/2019/12/22/global-... [2] http://www.asymco.com/2011/08/02/apple-share-of-phone-revenues-increased-to-28/ http://www.asymco.com/2011/08/02/apple-share-of-phone-revenu...