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For the "why would someone pay" question, I think it's quite simple. 1. We are more and more moving to a world of highly valuable workers. Improving their effi

by Jommi 5y ago

For the "why would someone pay" question, I think it's quite simple. 1. We are more and more moving to a world of highly valuable workers. Improving their efficiency in a high salary country is easily worth it. Company should be willing to pay 0.4 - 1% of your salary to make you more efficient. 2. Longer liftetime of company computers. No need to upgrade to M1 yet. 3. Seems like they are building a full on WorkOS as well. That migth also just be worth it.

heipei 5y ago
So you have a highly valuable worker where you can afford to pay 1% of their salary for increased efficiency but somehow you can't afford the $1000 to upgrade their machine? Hmmm...
- Jommi 5y ago
  Or you already upgraded the machine and require more efficiency :) Or the upgraded machine comes with other differences that worker doesn't want :) It doesn't need to be each of this reasons, and it doesnt need to be a combination, but im just pointing these out as possible ways to justify the pricing.
nly 5y ago
Many companies provide their software engineers with laptops that have 64GB of RAM as standard. The whole pricing thing is super interesting though, and I'm glad you're having success
- lupire 5y ago
  Many don't, though, especially ones that use Max clients.
throwaway894345 5y ago
(1) Sure, but installing more memory works as well and is typically possible without upgrading the CPU a la (2). I'm also not really sure what (3) is about--I'm a bit familiar with WorkOS, but I'm not familiar enough to understand how Mighty is competing.
- Jommi 5y ago
  The 3rd point is clear if you read the mighty website. They advertise improved functionality and hotkeys for common work webapps. That's definitely part of a push to become an OS for work (not workOS).
  - throwaway894345 5y ago
    The OP said “WorkOS”, so I thought they were talking about the company.
    - Jommi 5y ago
      Yes, that assumption is not illogical at all. I should have been more clear!
fyrabanks 5y ago
Pardon me for being rude, but this seems like a pretty naive marketing take on what they're offering. What exactly is the use case here? Employees that have hundreds of tabs open saving a couple seconds loading web pages? How much productivity is being lost there, objectively? Once you get above 20 tabs, are you genuinely keeping track of every single one as something to return to later? Or are you just being lazy and lack the personal systems to track what's actually important or needs to be returned to later? I've been using a 11y/o computer at home for everything--code compilation, VMs, work AND personal life--and this has never been an issue for me. Maybe I'll give you #3, but if an employee came to me asking for this as a paid subscription, I'd shut the idea down immediately. Seems like another startup trying to fill a space that doesn't need to be occupied.
- 6510 5y ago
  > Once you get above 20 tabs, are you genuinely keeping track of every single one as something to return to later? yes! Ideally I have around 500 tabs that I all need. I for example let your comment sit here for a while unsure if I was going to reply to it. There are more topics on HN currently under investigation. Each spawns a series of extra tabs. Cloud browsers, whole OS in the cloud, what hapend to paperspace? I open several articles that I may or may not read. When I get back to this discussion I look over the tabs it spawned and continue exploring while closing old ones... There is a window with music, one with youtube videos I might want to watch/comment on with the further research tabs they spawn. A dozen tax tabs, courier services, business card services. Dozens of tabs for websites I'm working at. jsfiddles, specs, demos. Tabs about wind turbines without propellers, road side wind turbines, covid, oil and coal reserves. And aggregators ofc Basically, I can only do work or look at depressing shit for so long but I get back to it after watching a cat video. When closing lots of tabs I go over the topics which helps me remember what I've looked at. Its funny howmany people I talk with who have a single tab (usually also a single application and a single monitor) but know instinctively that their approach is better. (as if there should be only one metric) I cant begin to explain how much I'm enjoying myself. In the old days there was webspeedreader and MyIE2 that were much more suitable for the giant session. Then there was tabmixplus and then came chrome which is pretty much a turd with 10+ tabs then web extensions killed all the good tools.
PragmaticPulp 5y ago
> 2. Longer liftetime of company computers. No need to upgrade to M1 yet. An M1 MacBook Air can be had for $999. That's equivalent to 20 months of a $50/month service. Alternatively, you can finance a MacBook Air for $83/month for 12 months, and then no additional payments after that.
- Jommi 5y ago
  Exactly!

by Jommi 5y ago

heipei 5y ago

So you have a highly valuable worker where you can afford to pay 1% of their salary for increased efficiency but somehow you can't afford the $1000 to upgrade their machine? Hmmm...

Jommi 5y ago
Or you already upgraded the machine and require more efficiency :) Or the upgraded machine comes with other differences that worker doesn't want :) It doesn't need to be each of this reasons, and it doesnt need to be a combination, but im just pointing these out as possible ways to justify the pricing.

nly 5y ago

Many companies provide their software engineers with laptops that have 64GB of RAM as standard. The whole pricing thing is super interesting though, and I'm glad you're having success

lupire 5y ago
Many don't, though, especially ones that use Max clients.

throwaway894345 5y ago

(1) Sure, but installing more memory works as well and is typically possible without upgrading the CPU a la (2). I'm also not really sure what (3) is about--I'm a bit familiar with WorkOS, but I'm not familiar enough to understand how Mighty is competing.

Jommi 5y ago
The 3rd point is clear if you read the mighty website. They advertise improved functionality and hotkeys for common work webapps. That's definitely part of a push to become an OS for work (not workOS).
- throwaway894345 5y ago
  The OP said “WorkOS”, so I thought they were talking about the company.
  - Jommi 5y ago
    Yes, that assumption is not illogical at all. I should have been more clear!

fyrabanks 5y ago

Pardon me for being rude, but this seems like a pretty naive marketing take on what they're offering. What exactly is the use case here? Employees that have hundreds of tabs open saving a couple seconds loading web pages? How much productivity is being lost there, objectively? Once you get above 20 tabs, are you genuinely keeping track of every single one as something to return to later? Or are you just being lazy and lack the personal systems to track what's actually important or needs to be returned to later? I've been using a 11y/o computer at home for everything--code compilation, VMs, work AND personal life--and this has never been an issue for me. Maybe I'll give you #3, but if an employee came to me asking for this as a paid subscription, I'd shut the idea down immediately. Seems like another startup trying to fill a space that doesn't need to be occupied.

6510 5y ago
> Once you get above 20 tabs, are you genuinely keeping track of every single one as something to return to later? yes! Ideally I have around 500 tabs that I all need. I for example let your comment sit here for a while unsure if I was going to reply to it. There are more topics on HN currently under investigation. Each spawns a series of extra tabs. Cloud browsers, whole OS in the cloud, what hapend to paperspace? I open several articles that I may or may not read. When I get back to this discussion I look over the tabs it spawned and continue exploring while closing old ones... There is a window with music, one with youtube videos I might want to watch/comment on with the further research tabs they spawn. A dozen tax tabs, courier services, business card services. Dozens of tabs for websites I'm working at. jsfiddles, specs, demos. Tabs about wind turbines without propellers, road side wind turbines, covid, oil and coal reserves. And aggregators ofc Basically, I can only do work or look at depressing shit for so long but I get back to it after watching a cat video. When closing lots of tabs I go over the topics which helps me remember what I've looked at. Its funny howmany people I talk with who have a single tab (usually also a single application and a single monitor) but know instinctively that their approach is better. (as if there should be only one metric) I cant begin to explain how much I'm enjoying myself. In the old days there was webspeedreader and MyIE2 that were much more suitable for the giant session. Then there was tabmixplus and then came chrome which is pretty much a turd with 10+ tabs then web extensions killed all the good tools.

PragmaticPulp 5y ago

> 2. Longer liftetime of company computers. No need to upgrade to M1 yet. An M1 MacBook Air can be had for $999. That's equivalent to 20 months of a $50/month service. Alternatively, you can finance a MacBook Air for $83/month for 12 months, and then no additional payments after that.

Jommi 5y ago
Exactly!