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Fwiw, we had 5 customers pay $30/mo in the last 12 hours who have been trying Mighty for a few weeks. Believe me, I was skeptical too. I remember sitting in a
by suhail 5y ago
Fwiw, we had 5 customers pay $30/mo in the last 12 hours who have been trying Mighty for a few weeks.
Believe me, I was skeptical too. I remember sitting in a car driving back up from YC with Michael Siebel asking him: "Hey man, do you think I am absolutely nuts thinking people would pay for a browser that's FREE? That's an idiotic idea right?" and, of course, he encouraged me and I am still feeling pretty encouraged based on talking to users and seeing the revenue/usage/praise 18 mo later.
We have a lot of work to do and I am pretty embarrassed of what we've got still but it felt right to get public about it.
- secondbreakfast 5y agoFor people who spend $250+ per seat in Salesforce, $30/mo for a blazing fast web design/coding/collaboration experience is - if anything - cheap. Cue @patio11... PS very impressed with MightyApp - joined the waitlist. Congrats :)
- throwinawaysoon 5y agoif you don't know any competing services offering similar services for years. then any price seems cheap. but invite list, wooo, I got to get on it
- bin_bash 5y agoSalesforce doesn’t have serious competition, unlike Mighty
- lmeyerov 5y agoa useful comparison is other proxy/cloud browsers and especially VDI. $30/user/mo seems normal in enterprise: https://www.nutanix.com/products/frame/pricing https://www.nutanix.com/products/frame/pricing , citrix, ... . Frame and some others were a good perf+quality jump, and maybe mighty is/will be the next positioning for consumer/prosumer is interesting and invites changing the math! opera was notable here as a web accelerator, but also a warning sign for pursuing this as a VC-funded businesses. the internet is bigger now.. good luck to the mighty team!
- andrewguenther 5y agoI'm not skeptical at all the people would pay for this. I worked on a cloud browser for seven years, there's a bunch of different market needs for this stuff. But $30-50 feels really high. We got feedback from enterprise customers that they were looking in the $5-15 range per user per month. That said, we pushed the security angle much more than performance, so the dynamics are a bit different. Congrats on all the work here. Browser streaming isn't easy stuff!
- heliodor 5y agoEnterprise might say $5-15, but someone who controls their own budget and spends all day in the browser would easily pay more. Freelancers. Bootstrappers. The same way people pay for an IDE.
- andrewguenther 5y agoI agree they would pay more, but I'm still skeptical of $30-50. As I mentioned in a comment below, why limit it to the browser? If you've got all these resources just offer a full VDI which more typically prices in this ballpark.
- pawelmi 5y ago> If you've got all these resources just offer a full VDI which more typically prices in this ballpark. Perhaps their solution has something specific to the browser which allows them to do it really fast and cost effective. Eg. Sending just diffs of DOM to the client.
- numpad0 5y agoMaybe people are “enjoying” the Web in the way they consume $30-50/mo products, as if it is some fine movies or books, justifying the price.
- bartvk 5y agoWith a VDI, you're stuck managing windows.
- mosr 5y agoReally interesting service. Why might I use this instead of / in addition to Shadow (https://shadow.tech https://shadow.tech)? I'm a Shadow user, and they seem to give you beefier hardware at half the price, and it's a general purpose OS that will let you run any app (as opposed to "just" a browser).
- andrewguenther 5y agoYep, this is exactly what I was getting at. Shadow is one of many examples of application streaming services which aren't limited to the browser and offer similar hardware (or even flexible hardware) at a lower price point.
- ianwalter 5y agoIsn't Shadow basically going out of business? Pre-orders aren't estimated to be available until October and I thought I read somewhere that they are selling off pieces of the business.
- bleuarff 5y agoThere are 2 competing offers to buy the company, as I know of. One from OVH founder Octave Klaba, the other from JB Kempf, of VLC fame. So no, I don't think it should go out of business - in the short term.
- ianwalter 5y agoThanks for clarifying. Seems like a lot of companies in this space (at least the ones geared towards gaming) have had to pivot.
- airstrike 5y agoLooks like JB Kempf is the Shadow CTO It's one great piece of tech, so I'm not surprised he'd be interested in trying to turn it around
- np32 5y agoFrom JB Kempf of VLC, and supported by Xavier Niel who is a huge VC in France and founder of Free, which totally disrupted the ISP mafia in France. This video is a great interview of JB + story of Shadow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0c1CJT8X8A&t=20s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0c1CJT8X8A&t=20s
- hkt 5y agoI guess nobody wants to leave money on the table either. Easier to cut prices than hike them.
- breck 5y agoI expect to pay for this with high probability. I don't think I'm in the first target batch as I'm giddy in M1 land now, but I do work on so many different machines and love the idea of a persistent environment in the cloud. I also expect to want to do genomics in my browser at some point, and thus envision a need for 100x+ more powerful browser tabs.
- choxi 5y agoWhat would you be doing that would require 100x+ more powerful tabs? I'd imagine most process-intensive work is already being done server-side or in a desktop app, not the frontend of a browser app.
- breck 5y agoSomeday I want to run a whole world simulation. Think "The Sims" except the whole world. 8 billion agents, say a million bytes per person, so 8PB of RAM. While the sim is running I want to copy and paste the URL in a new tab and change a few params to compare the results. I want things to be instant. Today I want to visualize 100,000 rows across 1,000 dimensions in 10 different tabs. Between Today and Someday there are endless things I want to do.
- TimTheTinker 5y agoI wonder how M1+ Macs will impact your business, or whether anyone using one would benefit performance-wise from Mighty.
- freediver 5y agoNot just M1. There is another thing on macOS that makes Google Chrome features faster and uses less RAM - native Safari. Wondering if anyone did a test (speedometer or something similar) comparing Safari on average macbook vs $30/mo mightyapp.
- coliveira 5y agoExactly, I always wonder how much Safari is faster than competing browsers. I have dozens of open tabs and it just works. With other browsers, I cannot even work after a certain number of tabs.
- noloblo 5y agoMicrosoft edge has gotten very very good as well with sleeping tabs/ is light and all chrome extensions work seamlessly in edge
- w7 5y agoIndeed, I'm really bad at closing tabs. One day I wondered how many Safari tabs I had open on my pre-M1 2018 base model MacBook Air. I went into the tab preview pane and discovered it was around 480 tabs. Mind you this was in between system restarts so some were probably suspended or something, but still. I don't even notice with both IntelliJ and VSCode open as well.
- hasmanean 5y agoPeople who don’t close tabs because they unconsciously don’t want to lose their search history. At the end of the day your search history should be fed into a personal search engine which digests the data and figures out which pages were most useful to you (maybe by helpful browser buttons)…and uploads that into some open database. This can then be the basis for a new type of search engine. It could be implemented trivially on something like Mighty, since everyones browsers run in the same datacenter.
- josealivivas 5y agoThis is huge challenge BTW. I am dealing with electron kind of Web App and we are thinking in sell our subscription model with a bundle with MightyApp in the future waiting for the other versions Windows ( sadly) and Linux ( imagine the Arduino users ). Wait and see. The best for MightyApp!
- josealivivas 5y agoStill to early to think how to sell our [ we are in the very early stage] to sell our WebApp subscription as a bundle with MightyApp. But the price will be to high [add $15 for our side]. Waiting for the future when Linux and Windows ( sadly) versions arrive. Imagine the Arduino’s guys with this. Go buddy!
- niutech 5y agoThere has long been Puffin Browser in the cloud for $20/year, have you heard of it? https://www.puffin.com/secure-browser/ https://www.puffin.com/secure-browser/