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Not for many professionals it’s not. If you’re making good money, investing $1-2 dollars a day to be able to work more productively is incredible roi. I hope

by arikr 5y ago

Not for many professionals it’s not. If you’re making good money, investing $1-2 dollars a day to be able to work more productively is incredible roi. I hope to see people normalize spending $ on software. A lot of software is way under priced, and if it was priced higher, we’d have more incentives for companies to come and make more great software.

ordx 5y ago
What kind of target audience can drop this much monthly, but can't afford a computer with 16GB of RAM? Genuinely curious.
- andrewguenther 5y ago
  Exactly. Also, who needs those resources just for a browser? Why not make it a full VDI instead? With those resources it feels like a waste to limit it that way.
  - MaxBarraclough 5y ago
    Right, and that's something that's also on the market, e.g. https://shadow.tech/ https://shadow.tech/ edit Apparently that solution uses (or used) unencrypted connections, making it unsuitable for most uses. https://old.reddit.com/r/ShadowPC/comments/a6hi2c/anyone_use_shadow_for_work/ebwk9p8/ https://old.reddit.com/r/ShadowPC/comments/a6hi2c/anyone_use...
- arikr 5y ago
  I have 16GB of ram and certain sites are still slow and chrome still lags
- LeifCarrotson 5y ago
  I can imagine a small niche for something like this. Big corps can end up with weird IT department restrictions and capex/opex inelasticity. There are a tragic number of professionals stuck with a cheap Dell thin-and-light laptop with a 1368x768 TN display and 6 GB RAM. They can absolutely afford a better computer, but they can't get IT/purchasing to give it to them. They're unincentivized to spend their own money on a nicer computer, and even if they did want to, they could never get it on the domain and approved with IT's spyware and antispam software. But they may have a small amount of opex, their direct manager could accommodate a monthly "I need this subscription to do my job". This results in stupidly expensive Todo-list collaboration subscriptions, and cloud computers that are more expensive than local computers, and IT-bypassed remote storage systems...it's not a rationally optimal state of affairs, more like a weird corner of the chaos of modern society.
  - heipei 5y ago
    Genuine question, but would the places that are that inflexible wrt to hardware upgrades have the flexibility to allow you to use a cloud service to perform your most sensitive work?
    - hkt 5y ago
      Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs. (The UK's IRS) I worked there and they had these awful surface pros with hardly any memory. Their solution was to use AWS's hosted Desktop for Developers. It.. sort of worked OK. This, by the way, was not just for a few people: because of Brexit there are thousands of people all working on making the new systems for customs etc work. I suspect organisations that are undergoing digital transformation (as they are) will have this kind of setup. It was rife through the whole place: rubbish old IT stuff rubbing shoulders with modern SaaS.
      - flukus 5y ago
        I hate this setup. You generally need to have anything audio/video related on the laptop anyway and these are the most CPU hungry apps. Working through remote sessions suck and are high latency even on good connections, it's really noticeable for certain things like alt-tabbing and intellisense and it works awfully for multi monitor setups. I suspect it's more so companies can pretend all their old rules about keeping data on site can remain. Still, it's better than going back to the office.
        hkt 5y ago
        I gather HMRC's manchester office is famously bad: noisy, hot (without AC) and often with broken lifts and toilets. Bless home working.
- dimmke 5y ago
  This is my thing about it - I always hear people complaining about Chrome being a memory hog, but it never feels slow to me. I'm writing this with 15 tabs open and it's not even a worry. I only have 16gb in my laptop too.
  - jamestimmins 5y ago
    I suspect the target user has way more than 15 tabs open. I wouldn't be surprised if I often have > 100 tabs, as crazy as it sounds.
- deleted 5y ago
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- jamestimmins 5y ago
  I regularly run Docker + Slack + dozens of Brave tabs (still Chromium), and both individual tabs and my whole computer will slow down with some frequency, despite having 16GB of RAM.
andiareso 5y ago
Am I missing something? How does Mighty allow professionals access to internal websites and other internally hosted content. If this is priced for professionals, how is it even possible to allow workers to stream sensitive documents etc from a cloud service browser? Serious questions.
PragmaticPulp 5y ago
> If you’re making good money, investing $1-2 dollars a day to be able to work more productively is incredible roi. Sure, but investing $2/day pays for an M1 MacBook Air in under 2 years. That's why so many of us are struggling to understand this. It might make sense in the context of companies with weird IT department restrictions that won't let them buy new laptops but will let them spend $50/month on a service.
Barrin92 5y ago
This argument falls apart when you consider how often this is made nowadays. Yes, for one individual product spending 1-2$ per day isn't much. If you do this however for everything people advocate it nowadays, you're suddenly spending a thousand bucks plus per month solely on subscriptions. > it was priced higher, we’d have more incentives for companies to come and make more great software This is also a strange logic. The definition of innovation and the benefit of competition is to drive down prices for consumers, not up. Let's not turn software into some sort of Veblen good.

by arikr 5y ago

ordx 5y ago

What kind of target audience can drop this much monthly, but can't afford a computer with 16GB of RAM? Genuinely curious.

andrewguenther 5y ago
Exactly. Also, who needs those resources just for a browser? Why not make it a full VDI instead? With those resources it feels like a waste to limit it that way.
- MaxBarraclough 5y ago
  Right, and that's something that's also on the market, e.g. https://shadow.tech/ https://shadow.tech/ edit Apparently that solution uses (or used) unencrypted connections, making it unsuitable for most uses. https://old.reddit.com/r/ShadowPC/comments/a6hi2c/anyone_use_shadow_for_work/ebwk9p8/ https://old.reddit.com/r/ShadowPC/comments/a6hi2c/anyone_use...
arikr 5y ago
I have 16GB of ram and certain sites are still slow and chrome still lags
LeifCarrotson 5y ago
I can imagine a small niche for something like this. Big corps can end up with weird IT department restrictions and capex/opex inelasticity. There are a tragic number of professionals stuck with a cheap Dell thin-and-light laptop with a 1368x768 TN display and 6 GB RAM. They can absolutely afford a better computer, but they can't get IT/purchasing to give it to them. They're unincentivized to spend their own money on a nicer computer, and even if they did want to, they could never get it on the domain and approved with IT's spyware and antispam software. But they may have a small amount of opex, their direct manager could accommodate a monthly "I need this subscription to do my job". This results in stupidly expensive Todo-list collaboration subscriptions, and cloud computers that are more expensive than local computers, and IT-bypassed remote storage systems...it's not a rationally optimal state of affairs, more like a weird corner of the chaos of modern society.
- heipei 5y ago
  Genuine question, but would the places that are that inflexible wrt to hardware upgrades have the flexibility to allow you to use a cloud service to perform your most sensitive work?
  - hkt 5y ago
    Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs. (The UK's IRS) I worked there and they had these awful surface pros with hardly any memory. Their solution was to use AWS's hosted Desktop for Developers. It.. sort of worked OK. This, by the way, was not just for a few people: because of Brexit there are thousands of people all working on making the new systems for customs etc work. I suspect organisations that are undergoing digital transformation (as they are) will have this kind of setup. It was rife through the whole place: rubbish old IT stuff rubbing shoulders with modern SaaS.
    - flukus 5y ago
      I hate this setup. You generally need to have anything audio/video related on the laptop anyway and these are the most CPU hungry apps. Working through remote sessions suck and are high latency even on good connections, it's really noticeable for certain things like alt-tabbing and intellisense and it works awfully for multi monitor setups. I suspect it's more so companies can pretend all their old rules about keeping data on site can remain. Still, it's better than going back to the office.
      - hkt 5y ago
        I gather HMRC's manchester office is famously bad: noisy, hot (without AC) and often with broken lifts and toilets. Bless home working.
dimmke 5y ago
This is my thing about it - I always hear people complaining about Chrome being a memory hog, but it never feels slow to me. I'm writing this with 15 tabs open and it's not even a worry. I only have 16gb in my laptop too.
- jamestimmins 5y ago
  I suspect the target user has way more than 15 tabs open. I wouldn't be surprised if I often have > 100 tabs, as crazy as it sounds.
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jamestimmins 5y ago
I regularly run Docker + Slack + dozens of Brave tabs (still Chromium), and both individual tabs and my whole computer will slow down with some frequency, despite having 16GB of RAM.

andiareso 5y ago

Am I missing something? How does Mighty allow professionals access to internal websites and other internally hosted content. If this is priced for professionals, how is it even possible to allow workers to stream sensitive documents etc from a cloud service browser? Serious questions.

PragmaticPulp 5y ago

> If you’re making good money, investing $1-2 dollars a day to be able to work more productively is incredible roi. Sure, but investing $2/day pays for an M1 MacBook Air in under 2 years. That's why so many of us are struggling to understand this. It might make sense in the context of companies with weird IT department restrictions that won't let them buy new laptops but will let them spend $50/month on a service.

Barrin92 5y ago

This argument falls apart when you consider how often this is made nowadays. Yes, for one individual product spending 1-2$ per day isn't much. If you do this however for everything people advocate it nowadays, you're suddenly spending a thousand bucks plus per month solely on subscriptions. > it was priced higher, we’d have more incentives for companies to come and make more great software This is also a strange logic. The definition of innovation and the benefit of competition is to drive down prices for consumers, not up. Let's not turn software into some sort of Veblen good.