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Nah. Not interested in playing your game. You stated X, I showed X was incorrect. Now you're moving the goalposts, which was fully expected. One of the stronge

Nah. Not interested in playing your game. You stated X, I showed X was incorrect. Now you're moving the goalposts, which was fully expected. One of the strongest messages the US sends abroad is that the 1st amendment is sacrosanct. Highlighting law enforcement violently suppressing that is extremely damaging to America's reputation.

DyslexicAtheist 6y ago
I'm not playing any game. the goal post is not to compare apples with oranges. if the position is that Bellingcat (which markets itself as a citizen journalist type of outfit) is independent as they claim then they should be measured as such. Nobody is moving any goalposts. Your assertion that they are independent but also are unable to highlight crimes committed by the US then they are simply not independent. FWIW I'm not highlighting any side being bad or good but that the claim of independence needs to be viewed in relation to their alliances.
- voces 6y ago
  As far as I can see: Bellingcat is laundromat for Mossad, after WikiLeaks became laundromat for Russian intelligence. They still are a citizen journalist type of outfit, they don't take direct funding from government orgs. But they have to suspect some of their anonymous analysis contributors are working with a state agenda and resources. As a result, Bellingcat unlikely to go after Israelis in Gaza, but more likely to go after ISIS terrorists, Syria, Russia. WikiLeaks more likely to focus on US politics and NATO, than to look at Putin's finances or Russian banks. But then all of advanced journalism becomes murkey, as you can be independant, while only looking at what your anonymous sources give you. Is NYT or WP independant when it runs an article on national security by the CIA or DoD for censorship, and securing those future juicy leads?

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Nah. Not interested in playing your game. You stated X, I showed X was incorrect. Now you're moving the goalposts, which was fully expected. One of the stronge

by strictnein 6y ago

DyslexicAtheist 6y ago
I'm not playing any game. the goal post is not to compare apples with oranges. if the position is that Bellingcat (which markets itself as a citizen journalist type of outfit) is independent as they claim then they should be measured as such. Nobody is moving any goalposts. Your assertion that they are independent but also are unable to highlight crimes committed by the US then they are simply not independent. FWIW I'm not highlighting any side being bad or good but that the claim of independence needs to be viewed in relation to their alliances.
- voces 6y ago
  As far as I can see: Bellingcat is laundromat for Mossad, after WikiLeaks became laundromat for Russian intelligence. They still are a citizen journalist type of outfit, they don't take direct funding from government orgs. But they have to suspect some of their anonymous analysis contributors are working with a state agenda and resources. As a result, Bellingcat unlikely to go after Israelis in Gaza, but more likely to go after ISIS terrorists, Syria, Russia. WikiLeaks more likely to focus on US politics and NATO, than to look at Putin's finances or Russian banks. But then all of advanced journalism becomes murkey, as you can be independant, while only looking at what your anonymous sources give you. Is NYT or WP independant when it runs an article on national security by the CIA or DoD for censorship, and securing those future juicy leads?