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> Scrubbing dishes with your fingertips totally works, but we all have dishwashers. I don't have a dishwasher. I don't know anyone who has a dishwasher. Heck,

• db48x 6y ago
  Hmm. I detect some hyperbole in your statement.
  • cesarb 6y ago
    There's no hyperbole (except perhaps in the part about appliance stores, it's possible that I have seen a dishwasher in one in the past and I'm just not remembering). I really have never seen anyone using a dishwasher or a clothes dryer, and I really do wonder why was my apartment built with space for both.
    • berkes 6y ago
      I'm really curious where you live, because it sounds highly unlikely for any western country. I might imagine a Christian or Muslim (fundamentalist) society looking down on appliances that do 'womens work'. And I've spent some months in southafrican townships. Such places have no dishwashers. Or did not have them. I'm not trying to doxx you, or attempting to get people to post prviate info, but I would love to know your demographic.
      • cesarb 6y ago
        > I'm really curious where you live Southeastern Brazil, in the Rio de Janeiro metropolitan area.
        • db48x 6y ago
          Ah, ok. I didn’t realize such places still existed. Around here, dishwashers are virtually ubiquitous. It’s actually more common for people to not have washing machines for clothes than to not have a dishwasher. People without their own washing machine can go to a laundromat, for example, or to a community–owned washing machine in their apartment complex. Even people who own washing machines will go to a laundromat for some things, like washing quilts or blankets, which require a larger machine. Meanwhile there are no equivalent places where you can take your dirty dishes to wash.
          • berkes 6y ago
            > Meanwhile there are no equivalent places where you can take your dirty dishes to wash. Considering that "throwaway packaging and cutlery" is a common solution to this: Order food, the packaging, plastic forks and spoons and napkins included. And seeing that a large demography is trying to live off "less waste", I do see an opportunity here. A community "diswashing service". It would need solid infra and tech to not immediately turn into a rat-infested-mould-party, but I truly think that a place where e.g. you drop your dishes, cutlery, glasses etc, and can pick them up in the evening filled with a meal, is an opportunity. For example.
            • db48x 6y ago
              That would be interesting, but I suspect that transporting your dishes there and returning to pick them up would be more work than just loading them into a dishwasher. Unless the service were quite close by. Which reminds me, wasn’t room service once a perk you could get in some apartment buildings? You don’t often find dumbwaiters in apartment buildings any more, for example. I would pay for that if it were available.
          • jcelerier 6y ago
            I live in france and almost none of my friends own a dishwasher but we all have a washing machine
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      • gher-shyu3i 6y ago
        > Muslim (fundamentalist) society looking down on appliances that do 'womens work'. That's extremely condescending, not to mention plain wrong.
        • berkes 6y ago
          I'm not trying to start an Off-topic religious debate here. Sorry for coming over condescending. If you read "all Muslims" you read far too much in it: the fundamentialist part is important. Nor did I say, nor imply that this goes for anyone who identifies as Muslim. If you read that: I'm truly sorry. I know from experience that the statement holds true for several Christian fundamentalists and Jewish fundamentalist (not all!)communities. I have only read (but not from experience) about how women (especially those of other sects) were treated in the Chalifate from ISIS and how their "work" was deemed slave-worthy.
          • gher-shyu3i 6y ago
            > the fundamentialist part is important It's still outright wrong. Your experience with Christian and Jewish fundamentalists does not apply to Muslims. Please stop with spreading incorrect information about Muslims. ISIS is a fringe group whom we don't give any semblance of credence to, and even they would not look down at washing machines "because it's a woman's job". This is plain ridiculous. The secular West continues to group all religions together and marks any religious person as some sort of sheep. Also, let's stop with this "identifies as" business. A person is either a Muslim or a non-Muslim. A person who does not believe in God cannot "identify as" a Muslim for example. That being said, the religion is open to anyone who wants to accept it.
            • Ntrails 6y ago
              > A person is either a Muslim or a non-Muslim. As long as you accept it is their right to define that, and not you! One might use "identifies as" to avoid the classic response of "ah but x was not really a y because z". Someone who believes themselves to be a Muslim simply is. You can call them a bad Muslim, ignorant, misinformed, misguided etc. But they are what they believe themselves to be. (I am entirely sympathetic to your original frustration. GP was applying very odd assumptions)
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